A7r with RF glass

Here's my 1978 Montesa Cota 348, shot with the A7r using a Summicron-M 90mm f2 (pre-asph). Click the link to see it larger, and compared with the Sony-Zeiss 55/1.8 and the Zuiko 28/2.
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Great shot. My gas gas 300 txt is asking, why don't I look so nice and clean?

1956 red scale elmar on A7:


DSC05855 by unoh7, on Flickr


DSC05827-3 by unoh7, on Flickr


DSC05901-3 by unoh7, on Flickr

This lens had no edges at any aperture on the R! Tonight I celebrated my R refund by buying an A7 backup, for when I have to have the edges on my wide RFs: an M9! 😉

I've looked at so many M9 images as benchmarks in testing the sony I finally gave in, not least because the sony is basically the same size.

I love the A7 and will keep it, of course.

I also love the elmar:

DSC05929-2 by unoh7, on Flickr

Below, here it is wide open: I had forgot to stop back down after some indoor shots

DSC05881 by unoh7, on Flickr
big smears on the side, but nice detail in the center 🙂
 
I agree A7 and 40 Cron are a nice combination: full coverage all the way to the corners, no tinting, and a 'classic' sort of resolution: good detail, but not so 'clinical' that your eyes get stuck on the surface of the image and lose the sense of depth.

Bokeh is much prettier, though, with 58mm.

And both kidz really cute!
 
A7R / 75 Lux 1.4

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I'm in a dilemma right now.. help me choose a m-mount 28mm lens
pretty much between ZM 28/2.8 and VM 28/2 Ultron, maybe Konica M-hexanon 28/2.8
I will use it both on A7 and Zeiss Ikon, which to go.. seem the VM performs the best on A7 in terms or corners, but ZM 28/28 has the taste contrast and slightly sharper...

Any input will be highly appreciated!
 
I'm in a dilemma right now.. help me choose a m-mount 28mm lens
pretty much between ZM 28/2.8 and VM 28/2 Ultron, maybe Konica M-hexanon 28/2.8
I will use it both on A7 and Zeiss Ikon, which to go.. seem the VM performs the best on A7 in terms or corners, but ZM 28/28 has the taste contrast and slightly sharper...

Any input will be highly appreciated!

Personally I would take the ultron, though the zm might be a better technical lens on the M9, or low iso film.

f/2 will take you into barlight on an A7. Yes the edges will smear, but it won't be obvious in most shots at that speed since there will be other stuff oof also.

@dave great shots there 🙂
 
@uhoh007: Wow Zeiss 50/1.5 shot is very well executed there 🙂

Have a few to add:
A7R + Olympus OM 50mm f1.8 "Made in Japan" (Late MC)



 
Re: Zeiss 50 1.5: I think we're agreed you can make nice pictures with the center of almost any lens. The problem is that this one makes rather a mess of the corners when you'd want them to be sharp?
 
Re: Zeiss 50 1.5: I think we're agreed you can make nice pictures with the center of almost any lens. The problem is that this one makes rather a mess of the corners when you'd want them to be sharp?

You really think a 1937 Zeiss sonnar is going to have sharp corners shot on anything wide open?

When i have a chance I will test it on my M9.

for that matter please let us know what glass can give sharp corners at f/1.4 or 1.5? On any camera.

There's a big fat thing called the OTUS, it's the only one I know.
 
Personally I would take the ultron, though the zm might be a better technical lens on the M9, or low iso film.

f/2 will take you into barlight on an A7. Yes the edges will smear, but it won't be obvious in most shots at that speed since there will be other stuff oof also.

@dave great shots there 🙂

I'm also leaning to Ultron, but read someone said elmarit v2 or v3 is also good, still doing research
 
Here are some with 40 Summicron, which doesn't smear or tint the corners on A7 at f2 (but it's @ f8, f8, f5.6 and f2.8 in these shots).

In the full file of the top one, you can see how much peanut butter he's already eaten from his jar. In the second one you can read the titles on the signs (though not the fine print).

Both of the top scenes had very wide brightness ranges, but this is a low-contrast lens. In LR/PS I can hold onto more shadow/highlight detail with 40 Cron than with contrastier 35 FE. This was also true of 35 pre-A Summilux, which also covered the corners properly at wide apertures – though it was never as sharp as 40 Cron (so I sold it – not needing f1.4 with A7's high ISOs – for more than the A7 cost).

FE offers higher resolution, and autofocus is nice when you need it; but FE in comparison seems sort of clinical and characterless to me. Just my subjective 2 cents.

Kirk

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Red hair? by thompsonkirk, on Flickr


Minna Street 1: Light graffiti by thompsonkirk, on Flickr


Several different fantasies by thompsonkirk, on Flickr
 
Here's something different: soft focus and 'Leica glow' from the first fast M-mount lens, a 5cm f1.5 Summarit (@ f1.5). It's supposed to be the worst lens Leitz ever made, but it does cover the Sony sensor almost all the way to the corners – and it has this possibly interesting 'special effect.'

Kirk

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PS, I apologize for insulting the grand old 5cm 1.5 Sonnar in Post 457. The last portrait is lovely, and the classic Sonnars humbled their Leica equivalents. I skipped over the '37,' saw '50' instead of '5cm,' and thought it was a modern Sonnar-C. The ZM Sonnar-C doesn't handle Sony corners well.
 
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So which M mount or ltm 35mm lens works best with the A7? I think leica 35 crons show bad corners. What about zeiss 35 biogons and VC 35/1.4? And how about the konica M 35's?
 
So which M mount or ltm 35mm lens works best with the A7? I think leica 35 crons show bad corners. What about zeiss 35 biogons and VC 35/1.4? And how about the konica M 35's?
CV 35/1.4 as good as any RF lens on A7, excepting 35/1.2

You won't have corners on any RF except the 1.2 before f/8
 
My main concern about the Sony bodies has been how well they'll work with 35mm M lenses. I'd ordered an A7r, but following advice from RFF and LUF re: corner smearing and vignetting, I returned it unopened and got an A7.

Today I tried the Summilux Asph FLE, two Mandler designs – 35 pre-aspherical Summilux and 35 Summicron v4 – and a 40mm Summicron. I tried them at widest aperture to f4, thinking that the A7, with better high ISO performance, would be my body of choice for low-light-level shooting. (When I can use lower ISO's, I'll stick with M9.) I used a Voigtlander adapter, which is quite solid. I photographed a blank garage door to look for color vignetting, and a fence with both vertical lines and mesh to check for corner smearing.

I tried the Lux FLE first with high hopes, but it exhibited some color vignetting at all apertures and quite a bit of corner smearing: lots of it at f1.4, moderate at f2.8, and perhaps just tolerable at f4. I won't be using this lens on A7.

The 35 Cron v 4 performed better than the FLE, but still not too well. At f2 I saw moderate color shift, and vignetting in the corners. At f4 it was still vignetting, but the color shift seemed less. At f2 it smeared less in the corners than the FLE – smearing was limited to the far corners of the frame. At f4 it might be tolerable, but it's so much better on M9.

The 35 pre-aspherical Summilux and the 40 Summicron were both better, but for different reasons.

The PA Lux at f1.4 showed quite a bit of luminance/BW vignetting but much less color shift in the corners. This is probably be reparable in LR/PS withe the regular vignetting correction tool (no need, I'm guessing, for the new and complicated flat field plug-in). It showed only a little bit of corner smearing at f1.4 and f2, and none at f4. IMO this is a usable 35mm lens for A7 when one needs wider apertures.

The 40 Cron Was best-of-all for avoiding smeared corners – visible only in the extreme corners at f2 and f2.8; none at f4. When looking at the 100% crops of the corners I could tell I was looking at symmetrical bokeh, not elongated smear. The downside, however, was that this lens vignetted quite a bit – luminance vignetting without serious color shift – even at f4. Perhaps it wasn't comfortable in the Voigtlander adapter, and I wonder if Novoflex would be just be the same. (It doesn't do this on M9, because it's been coded to use the 35 Cron lens profile.)

My own conclusion is that I won't be using the 35 Cron v4 or the Lux Asph FLE on the A7 body, and will probably make the 40 Cron my regular moderate wide angle. Subjectively I like the PA Lux best of all, but am always afraid of its characteristic moon-shaped flare when there's a light source just outside the frame.

These are tentative first-days-with-the-camera pixel-peeping checks to see what lenses to go ahead and use. I might change my mind later.

I'm also going to check some 50s this weekend. A first look suggested the pre-aspherical Lux performs noticeably better in the corners than 1.5 Sonnar-C. My Lux is a minty black paint one, worth quit a bit more than either an A7 or A7r body; so I wish it had turned out the other way!

Kirk

a suggestion

try cron 35 version 2

i ve tried version 1 ... the color is desaturated so much
version 4 .. dissapointing
dont have version 3
but version 2 is shinning

version 2 + metabones adapter is glued to the A7 now
perfect in F2 all the way to the edge
contrast and 3 D is there


Self picture .. using Cron 35 ver 2 and A7 against the light (non shade no filter )


Me M5 Cron 35 White Tuna by DRW's Daddy, on Flickr


the train and people

Train by DRW's Daddy, on Flickr


Sincerely
William Jusuf
 
Thx for suggestion, William! The V2 looks fine in terms of corner resolution, though maybe a bit blue in corners? I think I can borrow one from a friend to try.

Currently very happy with 40 Cron (as in the post that's 3d above).

Kirk
 
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