Huss
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Also what features? My personal preferences are not the same as other customers. (and are no more valid). Another factor is that old guys already know what we like, a neophyte just starting out in film has not developed those preferences yet. So...what do you build? What lens mount? You ask ten contributors to this forum and you are likely to get at least 5 or 6 different answers.
I guess you never read the spec on the new Reflex. It comes with interchangeable lens mounts. So u can use a ton of different lenses. Including your Oympus lenses. And why would they make new lenses when one of the mount options is Nikon, who still make new Ais lenses.
You're not the market. You want a new old OM. The Reflex is genius in that it brings flexibility to users to use whichever lens they want.
zuiko85
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Yeah Huss, I read the spec on it. Interchangeable mounts eh, with open aperture meter coupling and auto aperture operation? I don't know, they don't say. In fact, the information on specifics are meager to say the least. They don't mention if any of the various lens mount modules are meter/aperture coupled at all. Nor what type of shutter, all mechanical? Electronic timing, battery required? Interchangeable screens? Diopter adjustment built in to the eyepiece, or add on? What is the native eyepiece set to, 1 meter, .5 meter? (To be fair, most camera makers did not include that information back in the day. Too bad, it could have been useful.)
Yes, I've got my OM's and they will last as long as necessary so I'm not interested in this unit, if it comes to market. As far as it being 'genius'.......time will tell.
PS; I'm not opposed to manual control of lens aperture, I have a Pen F film camera and have original Olympus adapters for both M42 and OM mount lenses plus a couple of 'T' mounts for pre-set T mount lenses.
Yes, I've got my OM's and they will last as long as necessary so I'm not interested in this unit, if it comes to market. As far as it being 'genius'.......time will tell.
PS; I'm not opposed to manual control of lens aperture, I have a Pen F film camera and have original Olympus adapters for both M42 and OM mount lenses plus a couple of 'T' mounts for pre-set T mount lenses.
Huss
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Yes, I've got my OM's and they will last as long as necessary so I'm not interested in this unit, if it comes to market.
The same people complaining about it, wishing it was something else, also wouldn't buy that something else if it was offered new.
They would just say why bother, I can get it used and cheap..
Let's be honest. The gripers are not the target audience. They no longer are relevant as customers for gear. The next generation of film shooters are.
css9450
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Let's be honest. The gripers are not the target audience. They no longer are relevant as customers for gear. The next generation of film shooters are.
All the young film shooters I know are using film for the whole "film experience", and that includes using vintage gear as a very big part of said experience. New cameras are boring to them.
zuiko85
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All the young film shooters I know are using film for the whole "film experience", and that includes using vintage gear as a very big part of said experience. New cameras are boring to them.
It must be a desert here, (south Puget sound) I don't know any young film shooters....
Wait, I do know of one young lady, about 6 years ago I sold her my Mamiya C220 outfit. I sold it for less than half of the going rate because I had seen her work with a borrowed Yashica TLR and knew she would use it to good effect. She is a true artist (something I'll never be) and her darkroom prints are stunning. But she moved to Seattle so isn't local anymore.
Otherwise all I see are smart phones or digital being used everywhere. A couple of months ago I encountered a fellow with a Mamiya 645, but he was a gray hair like me.
css9450
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It must be a desert here, (south Puget sound) I don't know any young film shooters....
I'll admit, I only know two or three. I am extrapolating.
Huss
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I see lots of kids/young people in LA using film cameras, including my nephews and their friends.
I actually see very few digi cams in downtown- seems to be mostly smart phones (99%), then film cameras. And Samy's film department is doing gangbusters business every time I'm there (several times a week). They have 3 locations in SoCal.
I actually see very few digi cams in downtown- seems to be mostly smart phones (99%), then film cameras. And Samy's film department is doing gangbusters business every time I'm there (several times a week). They have 3 locations in SoCal.
zuiko85
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I see lots of kids/young people in LA using film cameras, including my nephews and their friends.
I actually see very few digi cams in downtown- seems to be mostly smart phones (99%), then film cameras. And Samy's film department is doing gangbusters business every time I'm there (several times a week). They have 3 locations in SoCal.
Must be the locale then. We have The Evergreen State Collage, a liberal arts school, and, last time I checked they still had a darkroom. I would think I'd see at least a few students downtown using film but no, hardly ever. We have zero places to buy film in town. For labs still doing C-41 I think there may be one lab in Parkland, (56 miles round trip). But other than that a person might still find something in Seattle. (120 mile round trip)
Sounds like you are in film paradise. Does Samy's also sell used film equipment?
Huss
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Sounds like you are in film paradise. Does Samy's also sell used film equipment?
Yup they do. Just saw a young woman buy some Canon EOS something, because she wanted a film camera but automatic! So much for wanting a mechanical purist jobby. I actually was a bit surprised.
Samy's film prices are exactly the same as mail order from B&H or Adorama. Plus sales tax. But no minimum purchase for free shipping, so it is a wash. But you can have it RIGHT NOW! so they pull ahead. For all the Lomo bashing, they carry a lot of that film too, and apparently are moving it. Their regular (not funky tinted) 100, 400 and 800 stuff is very good.
In Hollywood Mel Pierce and FreeStyle photo sells plenty of film too.
I think it's the same deal in San Fran - lots of film users and shops.
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