Announcing the RFF Book 2 Project!!!!

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dkirchge said:
I'm having trouble enough picking one of my photos let alone two since a lot of the photos I'd desperately love to show off weren't taken with rangefinders... :bang:.

If it comes to a choice between having to cut people who want to participate or restrict those participating to one photo in order to keep the production costs and sales price reasonable, one photo each seems a reasonable compromise to me.
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This is most likely what we will do. Again, I was the one with the disconnect with Ray, Gene and even Joe who is trying to stay neutral though is of course a very valuable sounding board.
 
Rich Silfver said:
Rover, happy to see you're heading up this.
Good luck and I will be sure to buy a copy.
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Rich, good to see you drop in once in a while!
All is well, I hope.
We'll try to make it yet another fine book.
You've inspired many of us with setting up the first book, not to mention your photos.

I think many of us miss your presence, so it's doubly nice to see you drop in sometimes.

And you can join in this 2nd book too if you want. 🙂
 
I'm thinking, instead of only one photo we could also put up two on a page, couldn't we? Or two spread over left and right pages instead of leaving the left page nearly blank. Any text could go under the photos. And IIRC the text in book 1 was a bit on the large side. With a smaller point size there could be plenty of room for those who can't stop writing and glorifying their rf cameras. 🙂
 
I'm very excited about the project and it is great to see so much interest. That said, I'd hate to see anyone completely stressed and not enjoying the process, Rover and others in particular. If it is one photo per, fine. Two, fine. I 'll be busy stressing over what photo(s) to submit. That's the only kind of stress that might help the project. 🙂

Scott

-and I just noticed that moderator Joe changed his avitar. The new one is nice but I loved that old one. Heading to his gallery to see if it is there.
 
gabrielma said:
lol -- AH! Now I see what you meant. Changes it completely. Yes, I agree with you.

Like Rover said, what we choose, it will be in (within the boundaries of Common Sense, if Common Sense allows it, I hope); I think it would be a great show of collective collaboration (not a redundant redundancy here) if we strive to do our own share and indeed meet that challenge personally, to submit two of our own best, not "just two" pictures because we want our name in a book.

Utopias are great in textbooks, though. Can we meet this challenge?

But first and foremost it's our love of photography, and our love of this type of photo gear that has brought us together. Let that joy be a guide.
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Well said Gabriel!

 
sbug said:
I'm very excited about the project and it is great to see so much interest. That said, I'd hate to see anyone completely stressed and not enjoying the process, Rover and others in particular. If it is one photo per, fine. Two, fine. I 'll be busy stressing over what photo(s) to submit. That's the only kind of stress that might help the project. 🙂

Scott

-and I just noticed that moderator Joe changed his avitar. The new one is nice but I loved that old one. Heading to his gallery to see if it is there.
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Stress? Someone is feeling stress? Who? Not me? Stress? 😱

Scott, we are all fine, just getting down the details. Thank you for your support, I actually did send an email this morning to the guys saying that I am having fun. All is well, so far.
 
I know i was not asked about, but i still want to say😀 that i agree, one photo per person shall be enough. I know myself how hard is to decide when you have three equally dear shots and only one is the one...but life is cruel, heh? (saying this after another failed job interview 🙁 )
Oh yeah...I will trade my spot in Book 2 for a good job 😀 anyone interested?

Back to topic: Indeed the text was quite large fontsized in book 1 but it looks good. Two shots on one page, i think it would get crowded; for my own page, i'd prefer one shot on a good looking page than two just to make it more. Also, spreading a photo over two pages is difficult to make it right, and it's very annoying when i see that an absolutely great shot in a magazine is messed up by the folding bump in the middle or by inaccurate alignment. Of course this does not hold for some magazines where the richness of the details detract from such minort inconveniences (think Playboy).

I'm confident we will have a great book, again. Good luck with organizing the stuff!
 
In book 1, each photographer had 4 pages, 1 photo page faced by a page of text, then repeated. I think one could easily make it 2 pages for each photographer: picture on top 2/3, and text below on same page. That way everyone still gets 2 pictures in, in half the space as the previous layout. Something for the graphic designers to think about and decide. I'm happy either way!
 
Gene and Ray are talking about some layout options so everything is being considered. We are really far along for only being at this for 2 days.
 
Dear Ray, Gene and of course Rover

hats off to you! I wouldn't try this alone, good thing you have company and can back eachother up. This could be a bigger project than one might expect looking from the outside.
 
Since I bought five copies of Book One (for relatives, friends..), buying one of Book 2 for me wouldn't seem too bad.
Rover, I remember the original discussion about profit of Book One, so figured #2 would also be simpler as a non-profit also. You guys are doing a great job.
 
Ralph, I know I'm way ahead of things here and that we're not looking to make a profit on this but if we should manage to come out ahead, I'd like to suggest we roll any profit into RFF site maintenance.
 
rover said:
Stress? Someone is feeling stress? Who? Not me? Stress? 😱

Scott, we are all fine, just getting down the details. Thank you for your support, I actually did send an email this morning to the guys saying that I am having fun. All is well, so far.
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STRESS= The mind overriding the body's basic desire to chock the living sh*t out of some a*shole who Desperately desirves it! 😀
 
FrankS said:
In book 1, each photographer had 4 pages, 1 photo page faced by a page of text, then repeated. I think one could easily make it 2 pages for each photographer: picture on top 2/3, and text below on same page. That way everyone still gets 2 pictures in, in half the space as the previous layout. Something for the graphic designers to think about and decide. I'm happy either way!
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I totally agree this way (writing two pages using my poor english will be a real pain in the ass task for me!)

anyway if I have to, I'll do my best!
 
FrankS said:
In book 1, each photographer had 4 pages, 1 photo page faced by a page of text, then repeated. I think one could easily make it 2 pages for each photographer: picture on top 2/3, and text below on same page. That way everyone still gets 2 pictures in, in half the space as the previous layout. Something for the graphic designers to think about and decide.
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This makes good sense, I think, and I'll additionally suggest that each contributor's two photos be on facing pages. That contributor's text then may more easily flow across the gutter and continue on the facing page. Conceivably also, the horizontal/vertical orientation of a photo may make more of that page available for text.
 
This project sounds like it's going to be fantastic. I just want to thank Rover and the other sage members of RFF who are helping to hammer out the details.

As for my two cents, I'm with FrankS on the 2/3 - 1/3 page layout schema. It sounds pretty solid. Kind of balances out the page, no? I've been framing some work this way, lately, with the window above center on the mat. Gives the graphic designers among us something to think about, too.

And while I'm sure that I would love to fill several pages myself, I really think that I'll have difficulty coming up with a single image that fits in well with the kind of fine talent I see around here. I'm certainly okay with one page per photographer.

If there's anything I can do to aid this process, don't hesitate to let me know. I'm sure the others all feel the same.


Cheers,
--joe.
 
Two questions:

1) Will this be color as well as B&W?

2) I find B&W especially demanding of subtle sharpening...why can't we do our own sharpening? I'm not objecting to policy, I'm just wondering why it's a problem...I know magazines usually reject sharpening, but they are usually journalism-oriented, not oriented toward serving fussy photographers 😕
 
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