Another battle in the war on film

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So I've been out of the black and white game for about 3 years. I fell head over heels into the dark world of DSLRs and only recently decided to make the long climb out and head toward the light. Rather than dust off the trusty old K1000, I decided to fulfill a lifetime dream. After a few months scouring eBay, I finally purchased an M6 classic and a Summicron 50mm. It feels so good to be shooting film again, but that's a whole story in itself.

My wife and I had the pleasure of visiting NYC for 3 days earlier this month. While walking around throughout the city, I put 10 rolls of tri-x through my Leica. When we got home, I anxiously ran out to the garage and gathered up all my old darkroom gear. After washing away all the dust and thoroughly rinsing out my old chemical jugs, (this was very interesting) I set off to buy chemistry at my favorite photography store here in Tulsa, OK.

I walked to the back of the store where they've always kept the darkroom chemistry. The shelves were loaded down with tripods, lighting equipment, pelican gear, SD cards and every other DSLR knick-knack one could imagine - but no chemistry. Oh well, it had been several years since I'd been in to buy chemicals, they'd probably moved them. I scoured the store high and low, to no avail. I flagged down a store worker and asked him where they'd moved the d76, rapid fixer, stop bath, etc…

The man looked at me as if I had sprouted 3 heads and a pair of feathered wings. "Oh no, we haven't carried chemistry for about two years, he said." I was somewhat taken aback and asked him why. He then launched into a diatribe telling me that people don't do darkroom work anymore, and that digital was the way of the future. I told him that I enjoy both. He told me that even though his store has a black and white lab, he shut it down because he didn't want to only develop 5 rolls a week. I asked him if I could buy chemistry anywhere online. He told me most likely not,

Somewhat dejected, I told him that I'd been going there for years and I'd go ahead and take 10 rolls of Tri-X 36. He gave me that look again and I almost turned around expecting to see a pair of giant eagle wings flapping at my back. "Umm Tri-X? Hmm, let me just look here," said the man frantically keying data into his computer. After a few minutes of wading through his digital inventory, he went to the Kodak film dispenser hanging on the wall right beside his head. "Hmm, this is only 24 exposures, but my database says we have the 36 in stock." Then the man began rifling through an array of drawers behind the counter. After about 10 minutes he finally found 6 rolls of Tri-X 36. I bought them.

The trip to my X-favorite photography store was a strange experience. Rather than being sympathetic or understanding, the man made me felt like I did something wrong. Like it was preposterous that I would inconvenience him by asking to purchase some black and white celluloid, not to mention…chemistry. (GASP) He probably would have broke his neck to offer me wide variety of multi-gigabit SD cards. But I digress.

When I got in the car, I hopped on my iphone to see if chemistry was available, and of course it was. But I do believe in supporting local businesses, so I hit the yellow pages to see if there were any more photography stores in town. There was. I called them up and explained the situation I'd just experienced at the previous store. The lady was very sympathetic and even appalled. She knew the rival store well and there was a genuine quality of shock in her tone. "I had no idea they stopped carrying chemistry? Do they even carry fibrous photographic paper?" "Unfortunately," I said. "Film photography and darkroom work are fine arts," the lady said. "What are they thinking?" I shared in her sentiment.

I told the lady that I'd been going to the other store for about 15 years, and that I will now be using her store for all my photographic needs. She was very appreciative. I gave her a list of what I needed to see if it was all in stock. They had everything except my D76. She said that they had recently ordered a case of 100 D76 1 gallon powder packs and sold out! She said that many schools in the Tulsa area are still happily using film and dark rooms, and that a local school recently bought all of her stock. I was very encouraged by this. It proved to me that there is still a great demand for these anachronistic hobbies, some stores just refuse to recognize it. I guess there is more money in selling the latest and greatest DSLR to the same customer every two years.

Anyway, I thought some of you may find this interesting and or encouraging. Here's to our unbreakable film machines and the beautiful celluloid they render!

Luke
 
This is the same story everwhere, no money in selling these things anymore. The interweb is where it is at, lots of places to buy film, paper, and chemistry. Down with local stores, up with places like freestylephoto.
 
Nice story Luke......welcome back.

I bought a D90 about 2 years ago to shoot family sports and I also felt a tug as you did but thank god I got over it. Its another tool but I have clients that still are willing to support film and for personal use I love my "old machines" for what the are and what they do.
 
Not quite the same story at this local store. Our number one seller in 2009 by number of units sold? None other than tri-x 135/36. 🙂
 
That is pretty much the same anywhere. The few local shops that do carry B&W chemistry and wet printing supplies generally have a hodge podge of stuff, none of it very useful. By far the best source I know if is Freestyle Photographic Supplies, along with Photographers' Formulary. Between these two shops you can get pretty much anything you might need. Welcome back!
 
Thank you Ray. I too bought a D90 when it came out. It was my first DSLR, and though I prefer film much more - it is very handy for taking hundreds and hundreds of family photos. I also liked that it had a HD video feature for the same reason. I'd like a d7000 for it's autofocus during video, but oh well.

Robert, Im glad to hear you're selling a lot of Tri-X! I can't live without the stuff.
 
This is the same story everwhere, no money in selling these things anymore. The interweb is where it is at, lots of places to buy film, paper, and chemistry. Down with local stores, up with places like freestylephoto.

Did you bother to read the entire post? The OP found the chemistry he was looking for (almost all of it) at a local bricks and mortar establishment. Most of the major Toronto camera stores carry chemistry these days and there is a resurgence in film use around these parts.
 
I think a lot of how well film does depends on the locale of the store. In places where fine art is thriving, you'll see more film sales. Where I live (Grand Rapids, MI), art is not exactly a big priority on our list (with the notable exception of ArtPrize). Film/chemistry availability in this conservative little burg is not so good. Oh well, I love Freestyle. I'll have to check out Precision when I'm ready for my next order.
 
Thanks Samuel, it's good to be back! Now I just have to wait on that D76 to get in. I'm DYING to see how my M6 did with NYC street photography. It's really the first time I've got to effectively use a Leica.
 
thats a too familiar story mate, a shop famous in the north east of England was and is Bonsors of Newcastle, years ago mid 1980's until I would say late 1990's it had a great second had display shelf, loads of stuff, I bought my first Billingham bag their, (225), my first Pentax Mx, a Lecia cl, I used to get my film there and my dark room kit....................mow its maily dedicated to DSLR and binoculars, a nice sales team but not film orienated anymore
 
I bought my Tri-X 36 for $5.00. PLEASE show me where I can get it for less than $2.50 per box, I'm going to have a buying spree!
they sell it at adorama for 3.45 dollar http://www.adorama.com/KKTX36U.html
anyway the film i was able to get for less than half the price in shop was kodak ektar 100 4x5 sheet film which is 23.50 dollar for ten sheets on adorama and about 45 euros in stores over here for ten sheets as well (which is about 60 dollar; almost 3 times as expensive)...
 
My local store happens to be a little vendor known as Feestyle Photo.... so ALL of you had better hope that my local store continues to carry B&W film and chemistry. 😉 I'm just saying...
 
It's not this way everywhere. The Penn Camera branch I like still sells a bunch of Film stuff. Other camera shops I've been in, in Williamsburg VA and Milford, CT, had scads of B&W on the shelves, and store space for secondhand cameras, developer and fixer.

Film is dead. Long live film!
 
IMHO, here in Portland it seems that photography stores have sort of chosen one side or the other, and not in a bad way at all. I can go to several different places here if I want film or chemistry, at least two different places if I want to look at older mechanical cameras while dropping off my film, and If I want to see the latest whizz-bang digital camera I can do that at a store that specializes in whizz-bang digital cameras. All within 20 minuets of my house.
 
While I applaud those who wish to shoot film if they enjoy it, (rather than simply through dogged determination not to change and adapt) I have passed through the veil (sounds like dying) and can now never imagine myself turning back. I find film just too much work and whenever I pick up a film camera and caress it thinking I must put a roll through this, almost inevitably when the moment comes to actually do it, I put it down again in favour of a digital SLR or Leica M8. But I still have a few film cameras, just in case.

As I say, I applaud you if you enjoy film and wish to persist with it. It certainly can give wonderful results, I just cannot bring myself to do it anymore. For me it was like being out of a marriage that was never quite comfortable when I was in it. One persists so long as there is no alternative but eventually when that flirty little devil, digital technology flashes its eyes at you, one jumps ship and moves on.
 
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Personally Ι dont know anyone who is passionate about photography and hasnt started shooting film, or some film on the side, or hasn't seriously considered it at some stage. In my experience for most people it is usually because they got sick of DSLR and want to try something different that they saw on the internet, only to find out it there is no digital equivalent for things like a 6X17, or square format, or a medium format RF, a lomo, a TLR, a panoramic, large format, polaroid, hybrids like Contax G etc. Or even a pocket camera with a friggin viewfinder! Or they simply cant resist when they realise they can own a proper Leica for $500. It is incredible how many camera designs have no digital equivalent yet. Basically if you think about it, the only camera design that digital has replaced fully and at reasonable cost is SLR. Until they do the rest of them I reckon there will always be a demand for film.

My only fear is that people will eventually forget about all these wonderful options they once had, and manufacturers will never bother "digitising" them. Already there is a generation of photographers who is not even aware of these cameras and believes that DSLR is the only serious option, that an Olympus m4:3 is the same thing as a Hexar because it is silver and looks retro, and that it is ok for a small camera not to have a viewfinder.
 
When I returned to the U.S. in 2003, I was shocked to find that the pro store was gone.

There's a store nearby that still carries film stuff, and I've ordered 10-roll packs in the past. I have to drop by this week and pick up a camera.

They have Technidol although no TechPan.

The mass market is interested in fast and convenient, and the quality of digital is good, although it's a different medium than film.

And the demand on pros for a quick turnaround pretty much forces them to use digital. Some of the guys at work often say that they miss film.

If you're looking online, check out Freestyle and also Digital Truth.
 
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