lorenzo1910
Established
I'm starting printing my own B&W photos...
I would like to print the whole sheet of paper and not resizeing it ...may I print it behind a (clean) glass?
Thanks in advance...
I would like to print the whole sheet of paper and not resizeing it ...may I print it behind a (clean) glass?
Thanks in advance...
Freakscene
Obscure member
Unless it is coated optical glass you will get problems with flare and reflections reducing quality and further loss of quality due to lack of flatness of the glass. A borderless easel is a better solution.
Marty
Marty
pakeha
Well-known
lorenzo you are thinking of using the sheet of glass that you use for contact prints..yes?
if so then all of what freakscene said.
regards
CW
if so then all of what freakscene said.
regards
CW
lorenzo1910
Established
Right guys,contact sheet glass... 
Ok I'll investigate what a borderless easel is (never seen one) ...
Any advice about brand/kind?
Ok I'll investigate what a borderless easel is (never seen one) ...
Any advice about brand/kind?
tomalophicon
Well-known
I sometimes print behind an old bit of glass from an oven door I found. It is very scratched and thick and produces interesting results. But not if you want clear, sharp prints.
Rogrund
Antti Sivén
Paterson used to make L-shaped magnets for borderless prints, maybe you can find a set of those?
Freakscene
Obscure member
B&H have several kinds in their online catalogue.
Marty
Marty
lorenzo1910
Established
Seen...but I still can't figure how it can hold the paper flat...
They are also a bit expansive...
Maybe I'll go DIY...
http://www.3m.com/us/office/postit/products/prod_bb.html
Many thanks all!
Edit: Uhm...this is cheap...
http://freestylephoto.biz/13810-Delta-Magnetic-Easel-11x14
They are also a bit expansive...
Maybe I'll go DIY...
http://www.3m.com/us/office/postit/products/prod_bb.html
Many thanks all!
Edit: Uhm...this is cheap...
http://freestylephoto.biz/13810-Delta-Magnetic-Easel-11x14
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jbrianfoto
Established
Do you own a vaccuum cleaner with a hose attachment? Build yourself a vaccuum easle.
lorenzo1910
Established
"the border protects the image"
Oh...never tought about that...
I agree.
Oh...never tought about that...
I agree.
Edward C. Zimmermann
Nerd
Borderless
Borderless
The best solution currently available is an electrostatic easel. They are both quiet and energy efficient. The next in line are vacuum frames. The vacuum pumps tend to be loud, draw a lot of current and their hoses are often in the way and... but they work well..
The least costly but also effective solution is a DIY approach: 3M removable adhesive spray applied to a suitably sized piece of industrial coated (plastic, melamine clad) MDF--- or suitable particleboard. The solution is quiet, uses even less energy than the electrostatic boards and is very cheap to "purchase".
Glass works but its both expensive and quiet susceptible to dust. There are problems that demand glass but borderlesss printing to a piece of photopaper is no longer of them....
Borderless
The best solution currently available is an electrostatic easel. They are both quiet and energy efficient. The next in line are vacuum frames. The vacuum pumps tend to be loud, draw a lot of current and their hoses are often in the way and... but they work well..
The least costly but also effective solution is a DIY approach: 3M removable adhesive spray applied to a suitably sized piece of industrial coated (plastic, melamine clad) MDF--- or suitable particleboard. The solution is quiet, uses even less energy than the electrostatic boards and is very cheap to "purchase".
Glass works but its both expensive and quiet susceptible to dust. There are problems that demand glass but borderlesss printing to a piece of photopaper is no longer of them....
lorenzo1910
Established
Many thanks to you too 
BTW at the moment I'm printing with a "traditional" easel...
(Didn't found that sticky board...not yet...I'll let you know...)
BTW at the moment I'm printing with a "traditional" easel...
(Didn't found that sticky board...not yet...I'll let you know...)
kossi008
Photon Counter
When I did borderless, I used to hold down the paper with some drops of water on the backside, on a fairly smooth (e.g. laminated) enlarger baseboard. There were basicaly two downsides:
1. Sometimes the paper would be tough to pull back off the enlarger plate, and I would damage the edge of the print with my fingernails. I never solved this.
2. If you get water on the emulsion side, you will get white fingerprints when developing. I solved this by having a towel at hand.
Then HCB saved me by convincing me to use the whole negative, which rules out borderless printing for most paper sizes...
1. Sometimes the paper would be tough to pull back off the enlarger plate, and I would damage the edge of the print with my fingernails. I never solved this.
2. If you get water on the emulsion side, you will get white fingerprints when developing. I solved this by having a towel at hand.
Then HCB saved me by convincing me to use the whole negative, which rules out borderless printing for most paper sizes...
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