Lauffray
Invisible Cities
Last time I made contact sheets, I printed my negatives through the plastic sleeves because we didn't have any 8x10 glass at the lab. Fast forward a few years, I now have my own darkroom at home but still no glass for proofs. Any significant disadvantage to printing through the sleeves ?
The only real reason I'd like to print through glass is to save some space between the strips and get all the frames on 8x10, I remember printing with the sleeves slightly cropped all the frames on one side.
The only real reason I'd like to print through glass is to save some space between the strips and get all the frames on 8x10, I remember printing with the sleeves slightly cropped all the frames on one side.
harpofreely
Well-known
I print my contact sheets through the sleeves, but I still put a heavy sheet of glass over them to flatten things out. I suspect contact _prints_ would be sharper without sleeves, but for indexing and general exposure info, in-sleeve does the trick.
Most glass shops will make you a rectangle of thick glass with beveled edges for a few dollars.
Most glass shops will make you a rectangle of thick glass with beveled edges for a few dollars.
JoeV
Thin Air, Bright Sun
Contact sheets and contact prints are two different things, though they use much the same methods. Of course, you can get a fair idea of a roll of film by contact printing through clear protector sleeves; but I'd never think of creating a fine large format contact print through such a sleeve.
~Joe
~Joe
Lauffray
Invisible Cities
Thanks for the advice, and sorry for the confusion, I meant contact sheets not prints (though technically contact sheets are prints
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photomoof
Fischli & Weiss Sculpture
I'm over on another thread remembering making enlarged 16x20 contact sheets on an 8x10 enlarger, and you guys are shooting through the plastic sleeves? That really sounds awful.
The traditional frame is not expensive.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...rmulary_07_2000_8x10_Contact_Print_Frame.html
The traditional frame is not expensive.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...rmulary_07_2000_8x10_Contact_Print_Frame.html
harpofreely
Well-known
I'm not sure what's awful about it - my point is that making contact sheets through the sleeve is good enough for what I use them for, and saves not only the tedium of lining the strips up by hand but also the wear and tear, dust catching, fingerprint collecting etc.
I'd not print through the plastic for anything indented as more than an organizational tool.
I'd not print through the plastic for anything indented as more than an organizational tool.
photomoof
Fischli & Weiss Sculpture
I'm not sure what's awful about it
Well made contact sheets, exposed carefully, and used with a good loupe, will give one a very clear idea of what the final print can look like.
Without a decent contract sheet you have nothing that can be shown to anyone, like a client, a pro printer, or just yourself.
Some things are better done right.
If one does not have a darkroom, and relies on professional printers as many pros do, good contacts are indispensable.
harpofreely
Well-known
I actually am pretty careful with my contact sheets, exposure-wise, because I find that useful in printing, but the images are just too small (even with a loop) for me to have any meaningful idea of sharpness, which is the only thing the plastic effects. But, I also have the luxury of no one ever seeing them but me.
photomoof
Fischli & Weiss Sculpture
but the images are just too small (even with a loop) for me to have any meaningful idea of sharpness
Done right with a good loupe, I think you might be surprised. Of course the neg will tell you more, a small test print even more, but still you might give it a shot.
There is no extra handling. Dry > cut > proof > sleeve 'em.
Of course they are your negatives!
harpofreely
Well-known
...but still you might give it a shot.
Perhaps I will, it has been a while.
Lauffray
Invisible Cities
The traditional frame is not expensive.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...rmulary_07_2000_8x10_Contact_Print_Frame.html
Sadly, with shipping and currency exchange this comes down to 100CAD for me, not so cheap :-/
Emile de Leon
Well-known
Sleeves will work..use .25" glass..cut a bit larger than an 8x10 print..you will still lose 1 edge of the negs unless perfect aligning..
Sure you can get better results with no sleeve..
But why not just eyeball the negs..and go from there...or scan each interesting neg with full frame digital cam and Leica BEOON..ad call it a day..
Many years ago now..when I got my 1st M3..and saw my 1st contact sheet..I said...wow..these look way better than my prints do..all the tones are there..
So if I ever go back to film..its gonna be...large format contacts only..
I have a bunch of AZO left...there is nothing better than a contact print for the tones..and depth..
Sure you can get better results with no sleeve..
But why not just eyeball the negs..and go from there...or scan each interesting neg with full frame digital cam and Leica BEOON..ad call it a day..
Many years ago now..when I got my 1st M3..and saw my 1st contact sheet..I said...wow..these look way better than my prints do..all the tones are there..
So if I ever go back to film..its gonna be...large format contacts only..
I have a bunch of AZO left...there is nothing better than a contact print for the tones..and depth..
Lauffray
Invisible Cities
But why not just eyeball the negs..and go from there...or scan each interesting neg with full frame digital cam and Leica BEOON..ad call it a day..
Because I don't own any digital cameras, and because I need to process 45 rolls of film. I'd much rather work from proofs because scanning is such a pita
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