Anybody else give up on the p.net Leica forum?

Rangefinder forum is much more civil, more of a discussion group among peers, extremely suportative.

On the rare occasion a woman would dare post on Leica/photo.net, she was always addressed by name, and it was as if her name was "honey" or "dear."

And there was always this obsession with the purism of Cartier Bresson or Ralph Gibson, never the messiness of Walker Evans or Eggleston or Moriyama.
 
Yeah, but sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind. That's what I miss about the old Leica pnet forum.
 
My impression of the PNet leica forum is that fools are not suffered gladly- this can be a good thing. Unfortuntely "fools" came to mean someone who dared post a "simple" question without first doing a search, or a naive question.. it's in the nature of forums that variations on the same question get posted from time to time & people need time & space to adjust to the culture of a forum. RFF is much more inclusive in this way & much less judgemental
 
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skipwilliams said:
I've been a regular visitor and poster to the Olympus and Leica forums on Photo.net for about 8 years and have seen it go through a whole host of metamorphoses over the years. For some reason, that Leica forum has always attracted more than its fair share of curmugeons who enjoy trashing people and posting inflammatory comments.

The quality of the knowledge there is pretty high, but the spirit of cooperation and community that existed about 3-4 years ago hides itself well. The forum is moderated, which helps.....but nastiness still sneaks through at times. Witness the last week or two where the M8 posts have centered around humor and ridicule, over, and over, and over again.

I only check it 2-3 times/week these days, the threads here are better.

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They are slow there aren't they? We got that out of our systems ages ago.:angel:

Seriously though ... there are some vicious individuals on that forum and some of the sarcasm and negativity is extremely confronting for us gentle folk. I sure won't be renewing my subscription!:confused:

I have had only positive experiences on their digital forum though. Does owning a Leica turn the odd person into an instant arsehole ... I have to wonder sometimes. Or is it just that occasionally some arsehole buys a Leica???

I like it here though ... feels like home! :) :) :)
 
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I still read and post on the Leica forum on PN. I also like the darkroom forum over there too. The LUG I don't particularly like though. I remember once trying to buy a camera body there and the guy just ignored me. Many members over there seem particularly crotchety.
 
Magnus said:
You can either choose to read or not read. But this is a community of photographers whom (hopefully) have more thoughts about things in life than just photography.
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I agree with the general sentiment, Magnus. But you mean to say, that you can't see the Cookie Recipe forum, or the Multivariable Integral Applied Discrete Mathematics section or the Butterfly and Mole Collection threads? :eek:

Shocked.
 
Terribly pompous, uneven and absentminded moderation over there. Tony's Ok, but the rest are worthless. They keep chucking out people who respond to the provocateurs. Lots of good data in the archives, though.
 
kevin m said:
I've been a paying member over there for about seven years, participating mainly in the Leica forum, but I let my subscription lapse, emptied out my gallery and deleted my account. Not happy about it, but it's pretty dead over there, and getting worse. :(

Anyone else bail out?
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Don't write about it anywhere, I deleted my account some three month before I got banned :)
 
ray_g said:
There is still a lot of information in that forum, and a search function that is more user friendly than on RFF. It gets very aggravating to read all the stuff in between the useful info though. Posting is another thing - i never post there anymore except for classifieds, but I always give RFF a few hours headstart. ;)
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The search function is google, try "keyword site:rangefinderforum.com" in google to have the same here.
 
Actually the two guys I miss over there are Jay and John Collier. Both had encyclopedic knowledge of things Leica, and John was a gentleman who gave excellent advice. Jay was very smart and sarcastic, knew an awful lot, but only gave advice based on his own choices. He could never see that other people might prefer something different from him; that was something to be sneered at - they were idiots. He did make things entertaining but was ultimately shot down by the trolls about two years ago.
 
RFF is so much more polite and friendly. I am trying to sell something over there and people are trying to pick appart my ad. It makes no sense. It seems like they are trying to prove me wrong so that they can look better or something. The worst think about it is that they are so attacking in there statements. They are not giving suggestions, they are declaring their way as the high way.
 
It seems like they are trying to prove me wrong so that they can look better or something.
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Sadly, you're right. That's how one earns "status" on photo.net. Not by being a good photographer, or a decent person, but by hanging on like a kudzu vine until finally, you choke off all the more desireable forms of vegetation.
 
Say about pnet what you will, but I can read what it says there without wearing glasses :p What's with the economy size script here on RFF? :rolleyes:
 
Peter, see the pop-up menu at the very lower left corner of this window -- Try the various + and ++ options and see what you think. :)
 
Dougg said:
Peter, see the pop-up menu at the very lower left corner of this window -- Try the various + and ++ options and see what you think. :)
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Ok, now RFF really IS better than Pnet :cool: Thanks for the hint Doug!
 
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