Anybody shoots without an external viewfinder?

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For lenses wider than 28mm? Like 21mm or 24mm. Curious to hear what are your experiences and thoughts.
 
I use a 25mm Biogon without the viewfinder. I tend to just estimate the composition and it usually works out. The only time I ever find myself trying again is when I'm photographing real estate. But then again I use an M9 do its easy to see if I framed it right or have to try again.
 
I like the external VFs but often can't be bothered, especially with the M9 with the opportunity for immediate review, as pointed out. I do this with the 21 mostly. Furthermore the Leica camera VF with rangefinder patch and 90 frame lines is very good for ensuring the camera is level, and I will check there even if I do happen to have the external VF attached.
 
I use the 21mm without finder. Since it's so wide, I always get everything in the frame anyways!

Framing wise I think its reasonable at 50mm frames + three steps forward; if I was after perfect framing, I wouldn't be using a rangefinder anyways.
 
I also use a 21 (and sometimes a 15) on an 0.72 M9 without a viewfinder. It is just another thing to keep track of! I am going on a trip soon. I packed the lenses, but the VFs? If I can find them, great. It not. Well, no biggie.
 
swoop said:
I use a 25mm Biogon without the viewfinder. I tend to just estimate the composition and it usually works out. The only time I ever find myself trying again is when I'm photographing real estate. But then again I use an M9 do its easy to see if I framed it right or have to try again.
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Same here, same lens and no external finder. Just eying around in the built in finder usually is sufficient and then if necessary, I hit the play button to review and take another shot in case the composition was not ok. That's not ideal but totally sufficient for the occasions I do use the 25mm. If I'd use this lens as my primary lens I would most likely get an external finder.
 
I have a 24/3.8 lens and do not use an external viewfinder.

As mentioned above I just estimate and have not been displeased with the results.

Perhaps someday . . . . .
 
I found that I could shoot my 24mm with the camera's 28mm framelines by using a little judgment as to how far the 24mm field extends past those framelines. But if I have a 24mm Leica aux. finder or the 25/28 Zeiss finder along, I will use it instead.
 
I use the hot shoe mount viewfinder when I use my 30mm lens on my Hasselblad XPAN II. The 30mm lens I have is is actually the Fuji version for the TX-1 but they are interchangable with the XPAN lenses.

I have found that the shoe mount viewfinder is pretty accurate - about as accurate as the frame lines in a Leica viewfinder (pretty close but not exact).

Here is an image of the TX-1 with the 30mm lens and shoe mount viewfinder intalled:
https://www.google.com/search?q=fuj...is%2Fgalleries%2F72157623661693336%2F;500;333

The Hasselblad finder mounts over the cameras viewfinder whereas the Fuji version mounts over the centerline of the lens; I would have to think that this would be more accurate than the Hasselblad style mount. I doubt if there is much difference, though - given Hasselblad's reputation and track record.
 
I had it in my head that I must have a 21mm viewfinder for accurate framing on my Biogon. But then I bought one and realised that after the first shot I can frame fine with estimation!

It makes the camera look pretty mean though with another eyeball. Hah
 
Another thing about the external VFs is how quick they make a grab shot. Scale focus, manual settings for exposure: the camera is up to the eye (chin) for the shot and down again, and it hardly looks like a photo has been taken.
 
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