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Veteran
Ive tried both the Foma and Bergger. I need to work a little more with the Bergger before deciding. Unfortunately I'm terribly disappointed in the Foma Retro. At this moment I'm still using my reserve of Fuji Neopan 400 with some HP5 from time to time. I still have a couple hundred rolls of Neopan but when it's gone my choice will be HP5 and Delta 400. Tmax 400 is also a good choice.
michaelwj
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I've heard good things about Bergger, it's my next "to try" film.
Otherwise, there's a reason that the old faithfuls are well liked, they're really good (and not even that old). Portra 400 and 160 are both excellent (I'm not sure you'll find a better colour 400 negative film), and TMAX 400 is excellent (just hideously expensive locally). The newer films released by the smaller companies aren't going to touch these for empirical excellence, only less "tangible" qualities.
Otherwise, there's a reason that the old faithfuls are well liked, they're really good (and not even that old). Portra 400 and 160 are both excellent (I'm not sure you'll find a better colour 400 negative film), and TMAX 400 is excellent (just hideously expensive locally). The newer films released by the smaller companies aren't going to touch these for empirical excellence, only less "tangible" qualities.
AlexBG
Well-known
I haven't tried 160, liked the 400, love ektar, tried the 800 and hated it. Thought 160 would be good but people don't seem to use it much.
AlexBG
Well-known
I thought this was an old film or has had the box redesigned. Will have a look though.
AlexBG
Well-known
Agree with this, have been shooting a load of ektra and velvia this summer and the camera has delta 100 in at the moment and is getting little use.
roscoetuff
Well-known
Alex: As might be said elsewhere, "Film not getting used: #SAD!"
Faintandfuzzy
Well-known
That is correct. It is not old stock.
Chris101
summicronia
I tried Ektar, it's ok, but I want Ektachrome! (I hear that is coming back.)
Of the "new" films, Portra 800 is my favorite. And Delta 3200 in black and white, but it's not that new. When are they gonna come out with a decent IR film - like to rival HIE, but fast? Now that would be a great new film!
ps (an old film plug), I put one of my last rolls of HIE in my camera today. I always feel pressure to shoot something amazing with HIE, so the result is 39 boring pictures. 39 cause you can shoot from the very first frame, since you loaded it in the dark!
Of the "new" films, Portra 800 is my favorite. And Delta 3200 in black and white, but it's not that new. When are they gonna come out with a decent IR film - like to rival HIE, but fast? Now that would be a great new film!
ps (an old film plug), I put one of my last rolls of HIE in my camera today. I always feel pressure to shoot something amazing with HIE, so the result is 39 boring pictures. 39 cause you can shoot from the very first frame, since you loaded it in the dark!
Ronald M
Veteran
Bergger 400 Panchro is fantastic. Similar to old Bergger 200 long discontinued.
Skiff
Well-known
No, it is definitely not freshly made (see my link to my test above). It is old stock.
This film - Agfa ASP 400s / Aviphot Pan 400 - was discontinued many years ago. The discontinuation statement was on the Agfa website for a very long time. If you look now on the website you see that this film is now completely gone:
http://www.agfa.com/specialty-products/solutions/aerial-photography/aviphot/
maryland_fotos
Well-known
In the right situations CineStill 800 can be excellent, nice glow and pleasing colors, a bit vibrant with the old analogue look, but sometimes that glow can overwhelm the concept one's trying to achieve.
Tried Rollei RPX 25 recently on sunny days, and have really enjoyed the crispness and detail. Holds up pretty well in terms of contrasty scenes, which I remember I had trouble with Ilford Pan F 50.
Tried Rollei RPX 25 recently on sunny days, and have really enjoyed the crispness and detail. Holds up pretty well in terms of contrasty scenes, which I remember I had trouble with Ilford Pan F 50.
Faintandfuzzy
Well-known
Skiff, the film is not from a 2008 spool. It is a new coating of the old formula. Your test actually proves nothing. So, just to be clear, are you saying Bellamy Hunt at JCH is a liar?
Skiff
Well-known
Do yourself a favour and get in contact with Agfa in Belgium.
And then ask them which is the minimum coating volume they can do and what it will cost. They will tell you several thousands m². And when you hear what it will cost it will probably blow you away.
Agfa is focussed on high industrial production volume (mainly for PCB films for the computer industry). They cannot do small production runs like Ilford, Foma,Adox or Film Ferrania.
And even bigger companies like Maco cannot initiate new production runs made by Agfa. It is much too expensive!
Even Maco can only buy fractions of what Agfa has already coated in the past for other markets.
And a tiny one man show like Bellamy Hunt simply has not the financial power to initiate huge new coating runs.
Maco offered this film ten years ago as Rollei Infrared. Then Agfa pulled the plug. No chance even for a much bigger, long established company like Maco/Rollei-Film to keep this film in production by buying the needed volumes!
And now a camera dealer and industry newcomer comes and suddenly all the industry laws has completely changed?
Dream on.
Please don't believe all this marketing BS.
Rangefinderfreak
Well-known
New film ??
New film ??
The nicest new film for me is the BERGGER Iso 400, not as harsh as TRI-X, but also not as flat as Eastman 5222 "Double-X" It is also available in 120 and 4"x5"
New film ??
The nicest new film for me is the BERGGER Iso 400, not as harsh as TRI-X, but also not as flat as Eastman 5222 "Double-X" It is also available in 120 and 4"x5"
Rangefinderfreak
Well-known
Why are you so picky about Bellamy? He wants something to sell, he has got 35mm cassettes with his logo, found someone to wind 36+ frames of bulk film into them. Are you sure Streetpan is not ORWO 400 ... It has the double coatnig that works just fine for home hobyist...Nice !
Faintandfuzzy
Well-known
I know what 9 year old base fog looks like thanks...this aint it. Sorry...relying on your friend is no more or less than relying on Bellamy...whom I know.
aizan
Veteran
streetpan's production smacks of mast brothers chocolate, and the only way to deal with the rumors and speculation is for bellamy to just tell people who is making the film. transparency is the best policy these days.
Faintandfuzzy
Well-known
He has...he said it was Agfa.
sepiareverb
genius and moron
And the initial Silbera films seem to be this same strategy, older Agfa Surveillance films in new productions/batches. Silbera states they've tweaked the emulsions some.
Spanik
Well-known
It could be a new batch of cut and packaged old coating runs. Typical marketing weasel words. Not a lie but not the whole truth either.