Attitude toward photographers in deep south

[gdi]

Hartford or Bridgeport (has Albany been moved to Connecticut?) may not give one much practice in mapping the current locals in poorer farm towns.

Like most of us in the real world, I walk by the dozen or so heroin addicts loitering every day at my chosen public transportation terminal, with hardly a second thought. I don't photograph them, and they don't photograph me.

Filled, who knows? I just see what I see, and know what I know, no acting.

How could you conclude that I thought Albany was in Connecticut? Just a few towns near me where there are problems, like most areas.

 

[gdi]

Admittedly I don't live in the US but some of the posts in this thread make me wonder. If we are talking about the South aren't we talking about a huge area and I am sure huge differences between the states or even counties. I am also not so sure if Miami is the south as a lot of people who life there are from the north. 🙂

I also admit that if I were to live in the south and someone from the northern states or just someone who feels superior to me because he has a higher social standing wanted to photograph me and was a prejudiced as some of the posts in this thread I wouldn't really be too happy about getting photographed by them.

A lot of problems photographers have is the result of the photographers attitude and not the person or location.
Treat people with respect and in most cases they will treat you with respect.

Bang on, you seem to have a much better understanding if the diversity of the US and the pitfalls of painting with a broad brush than quite a few who live here.

 

[burancap]

Hahaha. Since my last post in this thread, I damn near had a knockdown drag out with a pair of yahoos and their dates in the middle of a department store. I assume that between the missing teeth and the camo, they were simply looking for trouble. There are @ssholes everywhere.

 

[Thardy]

You couldn't pay me to go Bensonhurst in NY.

 

[Larry Cloetta]

if I were to live in the south and someone from the northern states or just someone who feels superior to me because he has a higher social standing wanted to photograph me and was a prejudiced as some of the posts in this thread I wouldn't really be too happy about getting photographed by them.

Amen, and thanks for that. I thought I had stumbled upon the "most ridiculous stereotypes of people who are actually a lot nicer than you are" thread.

 

[Thardy]

Save yourself some time and money and just check out this guy's blog.

http://southphotography.blogspot.com/

It's all the south you'll need.

 

[goamules]

I am talking about all counties in the USA and not just the cities. The SE is a regional high crime cluster. Florida is the Nr. 1 rape cluster in the contiguous USA. I have published this finding recently.

Raid

Bull. The NE corridor and the Rust Belt towns, cities, and counties are where the crime is. The SE is bucolic and friendly. Ever been To Asheville? Raleigh, Boone, Winston-Salem? I was raised there (didn't just go to College at Appalachian, spent my entire life there until I went in the Navy, then returned for several years), my family and wife's are long time NC people. My mom's side was SC since Colonial times. You can, and I did and still do whenever home, walk down the streets downtown at 2 AM with no problem. Almost all of the SE is as safe as Tokyo, where we used to say you could pass out drunk on the sidewalk, and a Japanese would take the wallet out of your hand....and put it back in your pocket! Take a little 2AM walk in Compton, Detroit, or Omaha, and see how long you last. Too many fantastical anti-southern people here, I'm hoping you don't join the thousands that have bailed out of the taxed and crime ridden NE to go to NC for the great lifestyle. We don't need any more wacky people coming down south.

 

[goamules]

Scary! Run away, Asheville is full of NC Hillbilly redneck Confederate Crackheads! Do NOT look at this photographers work!

http://www.katesuzannephotography.com/2013/08/asheville-street-photography-bele-chere-festival-2013/

 

[raid]

I base my comments on my research results. We used data on many years and for all 3108 counties of the contiguous states. We looked at crime rates and not crime counts. Where is a crime more likely to occur?
There are always some smaller hotspots with worse crime rates.

There is a literature on the culture of crime in the USA, and the SE is (supposedly) part of it. My comments are 100% based on my own data analysis of extensive data sets from the Uniform Crime Report or UCR, which is not perfect. NYC, Baltimore, Philadelphia, say, are cities with high crime rates.

Raid

Bull. The NE corridor and the Rust Belt towns, cities, and counties are where the crime is. The SE is bucolic and friendly. Ever been To Asheville? Raleigh, Boone, Winston-Salem? I was raised there (didn't just go to College at Appalachian, spent my entire life there until I went in the Navy, then returned for several years), my family and wife's are long time NC people. My mom's side was SC since Colonial times. You can, and I did and still do whenever home, walk down the streets downtown at 2 AM with no problem. Almost all of the SE is as safe as Tokyo, where we used to say you could pass out drunk on the sidewalk, and a Japanese would take the wallet out of your hand....and put it back in your pocket! Take a little 2AM walk in Compton, Detroit, or Omaha, and see how long you last. Too many fantastical anti-southern people here, I'm hoping you don't join the thousands that have bailed out of the taxed and crime ridden NE to go to NC for the great lifestyle. We don't need any more wacky people coming down south.

 

[Bob Michaels]

........ Often that is not the case, but at least folks have a general understanding that they can be legally photographed without their permission when in public. I'm not sure if people everywhere know that. Have any of you photographed in the south?

Be very cautious. Many of us are quite irrational and erratic. Even the few who have not been clinically diagnosed as mentally unstable. Our constant inbreeding has produced some incredible banjo players yet it has also produced some really strange characters.

Maybe someday we will be able to get network and cable TV, have internet access, read newspapers, attend universities, and even fly other places on airplanes.

Be especially if you are deep in the Mississippi Delta next week. You may run across some guy carrying a Mamiya 7 shooting additional photos for an exhibit and lecture he is doing in eastern Cuba in May about the people and culture of the deep south and its similarity to basic Cuban culture. He is one of those multi generational products of the deep south that is just as likely to rape and kill you as suggest where you can get great BBQ.

 

[nikonosguy]

I've spent time with Bob Michaels -- HE IS " quite irrational and erratic, clinically diagnosed as mentally unstable, can't play the banjo worth a damn, and is one of those multi generational products of the deep south that is just as likely to rape and kill you as suggest where you can get great BBQ."

man just stay up north because we don't need any more damn yankees.

 

[jojoman2]

Be especially if you are deep in the Mississippi Delta next week. You may run across some guy carrying a Mamiya 7 shooting additional photos for an exhibit and lecture he is doing in eastern Cuba in May about the people and culture of the deep south and its similarity to basic Cuban culture. He is one of those multi generational products of the deep south that is just as likely to rape and kill you as suggest where you can get great BBQ.

Great photos, Bob! I checked out your website. I like the way you see.

 

[gdi]

Scary! Run away, Asheville is full of NC Hillbilly redneck Confederate Crackheads! Do NOT look at this photographers work!

http://www.katesuzannephotography.com/2013/08/asheville-street-photography-bele-chere-festival-2013/

I think some of the " meridiemaphobes" ( yeah, I made that up) would be very suprised at the tolerance in Asheville, if they could muster the courage to visit. They allow non-caucasians, and even gay folks, to walk the streets openly; I anticipate they'll eventually get comfortable with New Yorkers, but it may take a while.

 

[jojoman2]

I've stayed in Asheville for a week before. I wouldn't say it's necessarily representative of the rest of NC... Fun town though. I'm not a New Yorker. I live in rural New Jersey. I don't subscribe to the whole Yankee thing, you can't help where you're born. I'm just here to take pictures.

 

[nikonosguy]

you know what's worse than new yorkers? Canadians... they're everywhere

 

[nikonosguy]

no jersey people down here... but for some reason many southerners love trump -- maybe because when we hear him,being a poor ignorant redneck ain't so bad....

 

[jojoman2]

Alright man. You're getting the wrong idea about what I'm trying to do here.

 

[gdi]

Well they are very far apart, but neither are near me, so what do I know? (Albany over 150 miles, Hartford over 100.) Seemed an odd list. 🙂

Sorry, I should warned that I am a heretic and do not consider New York City to be the center of the universe. Nor do I consider Missouri part of the deep South; but concede its otherness with respect to New York. 😉

 

[nikonosguy]

I'm just being funny- -- most parts of the south you'll be ok --- it's not a different country...

your route skips most of the ms delta --- if you get close enough, go to rodney ms --- it's down by vicksburg and natchez -- it's a really cool ghost town

 

[calebarchie]

Again, I'm having my doubts.