Auto Up for Canon 50mm f/1.5 LTM

[bennyng]

Hi guys,

Anyone played with auto-up for close ups with their Canon RF lenses? Does the little finder lines with the the viewfinders of most cameras?

Also, anyone seen the one for the Canon 50mm f/1.5 version? Not exactly easy to locate.

Cheers,

 

[ferider]

I used to have one, Benny, but never used it on my Leicas. Steve, where are you ?

Roland.

 

[Al Kaplan]

I had one decades ago with a 50/1.8 Canon. It worked. An SLR worked better. I never liked my Dual Range Summicron for the same reason ~ shooting close-ups when your eye isn't looking from the same viewpoint as the lens is seeing is going to always be a crap shoot.

You don't say which camera you're using. Leica TM or M, or an older Canon bottom loader or later model such as the P or 7.

Here's a simple trick if you have a 90mm lens for your M, and it'll probably work as well with a 100mm lens on a Canon. The 90mm lenses at their closest focusing distance and the Dual Range Summicron at its closest focusing distance using the "eyes" cover the same area.

Both cover the same area. Pop a 90mm on your Leica and you don't need the D.R. optic. The increased shooting distance means that you're looking at the subject more from the same angle as the lens. A bonus is that you're less likely to get your own shadow in the picture.

 

[dexdog]

Also, anyone seen the one for the Canon 50mm f/1.5 version? Not exactly easy to locate.

Cheers,

I have the 44" to 22" inch version for the 50/1.5, but have never tried it out.

 

[bennyng]

I had one decades ago with a 50/1.8 Canon. It worked. An SLR worked better. I never liked my Dual Range Summicron for the same reason ~ shooting close-ups when your eye isn't looking from the same viewpoint as the lens is seeing is going to always be a crap shoot.

You don't say which camera you're using. Leica TM or M, or an older Canon bottom loader or later model such as the P or 7.

Here's a simple trick if you have a 90mm lens for your M, and it'll probably work as well with a 100mm lens on a Canon. The 90mm lenses at their closest focusing distance and the Dual Range Summicron at its closest focusing distance using the "eyes" cover the same area.

Both cover the same area. Pop a 90mm on your Leica and you don't need the D.R. optic. The increased shooting distance means that you're looking at the subject more from the same angle as the lens. A bonus is that you're less likely to get your own shadow in the picture.

Thanks Al for the reply. I understand that and SLR will probably be more efficient for close up work. Just thought the Auto Up is an interesting accessory that might be fun to play with. I don't use any particular type of camera specifically and am happy to experiment. So I was wondering if this accessory will work on a Leica M or Screw mount cameras as well. Or even the Voigtlander or Zeiss cameras. Perhaps some folks have tried.

Pardon my ignorance, (in the case of Leica) the results from the 90mm at it's closest focusing distance is very similar to the 50mm DR? Difference in perspective from the focal length aside.

Cheers,

 

[bennyng]

I have the 44" to 22" inch version for the 50/1.5, but have never tried it out.

Hi Mark,

Is that the Auto Up 2? I know that Auto Up I for 50mm f/1.5 is 40 to 22".

Cheers,

 

[dexdog]

Benny, no numbers 1 or 2, just Auto-Up

 

[raid]

I have such an auto-up for my Konica III, but I have never used it. For extreme close-up situations, using an SLR is easier.

 

[Al Kaplan]

Bennyng, yes the 90mm and the D.R. 50 fields are within millimeters of one another at their closest focusing distances. Because of the converging viewpoints of the lens and finder you'll get more accurate framing with the 90.

 

[bennyng]

Benny, no numbers 1 or 2, just Auto-Up

Thanks Mark. Looks like I was referencing something slightly different.

I know the Auto up for Canon 35mm f/1.8 LTM was available in Type 1 and Type 2 so I thought it might be the same for the Canon 50mm f/1.5 LTM as well.

Cheers,

 

[bennyng]

Bennyng, yes the 90mm and the D.R. 50 fields are within millimeters of one another at their closest focusing distances. Because of the converging viewpoints of the lens and finder you'll get more accurate framing with the 90.

Thanks Al! That's very helpful information for me. I'll try to experiment with it when I have the chance with the Canon 50 and 100mm.

Cheers,

 

[Bingley]

I used to have one, Benny, but never used it on my Leicas. Steve, where are you ?

Roland.

I haven't played with it yet 😱, but this thread is a nudge to try it out.

 

[John Shriver]

Unless it is otherwise marked, a Canon Auto-Up is for the bottom-loader Canons (II, III, and IV series). There's different ones for the V and VI, and maybe yet other ones for the 7/7s. (Not sure what's for the P.)

 

[Erik L]

does anyone have a sample picture taken with one of these devices?

 

[CanonRFinder]

Canon made Auto-Ups for some of the 50mm lenses it produced as well as the 35mm f/1.8 lens. The later Auto-Up is quite rare although the 50mm auto-Up appear quite often on eBay.There first Auto-Up was for the 50mm f/1.9. The first 50mm f/1.5 Auto-Up issued in 1953 covered the 40"~22" or 100cm~56cm range but no closer. It wasn't until 1955 that Canon issued a #1 and #2 variation. When the V series of cameras was released in 1956 did the V-1, and V-2 Auto-Ups appear on the market. The later black Canon lenses had Auto-Ups marked 450 and 900 and came in three sizes for the 50mm f/1.8, f/1.4 and f/1.2 lenses but none for the f0.95 lens. Overall, I have identified at least 34 variations of Auto-ups. Neat item and one thing that has me interested in trying out but without the booklets showing the charts it maybe difficult to set up. They certainly did it tough in those days before Macro and Super Macro (digital) was introduced.