morback
Martin N. Hinze
to his printer...
I am personally glad to be out of the darkroom and doing a hybrid process, even if the end result does not reach the same sensuality...
I am personally glad to be out of the darkroom and doing a hybrid process, even if the end result does not reach the same sensuality...
rogue_designer
Reciprocity Failure
That's pretty detailed. Does anyone know, was Avedon a good printer himself? Or did he entirely rely on someone else for that aspect?
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
Hard. Core.
antiquark
Derek Ross
Does anyone know what the numbers represent?
rogue_designer
Reciprocity Failure
I was guessing seconds of dodge or burn.
j_fletcher
Member
I would love to watch a master printer at work on that! Any one got the 'after' image to post as a comparison?
morgan
Well-known
That's what I would assume. That's pretty detailed, although if you're a solid photoshop user, you probably make that many adjustments without thinking about it. It just seems strange to see them written out like that.
AgentX
Well-known
If you do it in the darkroom, people will call it mastery. If you do it in Photoshop, people call you a cheater...
(ed: Post made before Morgan's was up!!)
(ed: Post made before Morgan's was up!!)
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Nikon Bob
Guest
le vrai rdu
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dfoo
Well-known
If he knew the base exposure in seconds then seconds would be a good guess. Otherwise, what could it be? It cannot be stops...
Remarkable!
Remarkable!
These look like typical dodge/burn requirements when you are contact printing large format (8 x 10 and larger) negs in a contact print box. Used to place tissue paper inside the box, then cut holes or add pieces of paper to create a very consistent dodge and or burn effect. This was a very slow and painstaking process, but very accurate for large numbers of prints. Always had to make sure you accounted for development difference when you process one test print and then expose 10 to 20 prints and process them all together.
Photoshop is soooo much better. If there was only a way to inexpensively make a large format neg (color or b/w) from the computer image and then print that.
Remarkable!
These look like typical dodge/burn requirements when you are contact printing large format (8 x 10 and larger) negs in a contact print box. Used to place tissue paper inside the box, then cut holes or add pieces of paper to create a very consistent dodge and or burn effect. This was a very slow and painstaking process, but very accurate for large numbers of prints. Always had to make sure you accounted for development difference when you process one test print and then expose 10 to 20 prints and process them all together.
Photoshop is soooo much better. If there was only a way to inexpensively make a large format neg (color or b/w) from the computer image and then print that.
MCTuomey
Veteran
exhibition of his in my town - excited to see those prints.
a friend of mine has a signed & dedicated slipcover edition of "Avedon" where Capote speaks to his obsession over printing. apparently he was relentless.
a friend of mine has a signed & dedicated slipcover edition of "Avedon" where Capote speaks to his obsession over printing. apparently he was relentless.
Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
Avedon didn't do contact prints with all that work on them, they were very large enlargements, some over 10 feet tall! No one gets that exacting with an 8x10 print, its impossible.
sepiareverb
genius and moron
I printed 810 contacts for a long time using one of those old Air Force contact printers with all the bulbs. By turning off bulbs and using layers of white and yellow tracing paper or tissue one could get remarkably precise- much more so than I ever thought when I was taught how to do it. We'd even add some pencil or marker to the tissue paper sometimes. I wonder if those kinds of paper are still available now that architecture is all digital.
antiquark
Derek Ross
Another question: what do the plus numbers mean? Was he brightening or darkening those areas?
PICHA
Established
His negative was quite...bad, IMHO...:angel:
dfoo
Well-known
Looking at the image, its very likely + is burn, - is dodge.
Sam N
Well-known
A photography teacher of mine, himself a master printer, showed us this same picture in class.
If Avedon did have these skills, why would he spend time making the prints himself? It's an extremely time-consuming process and I'm sure he was busy and enjoyed shooting much more. Printing is fun in its own way, but I think a lot of the big photogs rely on good printers rather than doing it themselves.
If Avedon did have these skills, why would he spend time making the prints himself? It's an extremely time-consuming process and I'm sure he was busy and enjoyed shooting much more. Printing is fun in its own way, but I think a lot of the big photogs rely on good printers rather than doing it themselves.
Nicolás Raddatz
Excéntrico a sueldo
Very informative, thanks for sharing!