B&W developing starter kit

ywenz

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So after getting fed up with my local photo lab one last time, I've decided to reacquaint myself with processing my own B&W negatives... It's been 6 years or so since I've done it.. 🙁

Is there a kit out there that you guys can recommend for beginners? thanks.
 
I'm not aware of a "B&W developing" kit out there that won't throw in the proverbial kitchen sink.

If you don't have a darkroom, here are a few things that you must have:

- Dark changing bag.
- Two plastic (or metal if you're brave and privileged) developing tanks.
- About five or six dark brown plastic, 1 gallon (4 litre) bottles.
- Take your pick: Kodak D-76 1 gallon pack, or Ilford DD-X liquid developer
- Photo-flo
- Stop solution
- Wash-aid
- Three gallons of distilled water (to mix your developer, and fixer; you need two gallons, but the extra one is just in case)
- Archival negative sleeves (7x5)
- Lintless gloves (for handling your negatives)
- Metal hanging clips (for negatives), about 4 or 6 (buy in pairs).

Well, you get the idea. If you need specific brandnames of all these things, I'm sure somebody will chime in.
 
By "kit" do you meant a turn-key set of gear or just suggestions re: chemistry and accouterments?

Developing film is so simple and the equipment so basic that a pre-assembled kit is unnecessary, IMHO.

My recommendations:

1. 4-reel stainless tank
2. Changing bag
3. Diafine developer
4. Generic fixer

Done. That should get you back into the swing of things and you can always add stuff later.

Tom
 
Unless you're planning to develop a lot of film at a time, I suggest mixing your chemicals as one-shots. That way you don't have to worry about their going "off," and you don't need to clutter up your kitchen cabinets with big crusty brown bottles. That's how I've been doing it since I got back into b&w.

If you take this approach, and you're not in a hurry, here's all you need:

-- Room you can make dark.
-- Some kind of thermometer.
-- Tank and reels of your preferred flavor.
-- Five 32-oz plastic paint mixing cups (cheap at the hardware store.)
-- A 300ml graduate and a 50ml graduate (or close to these values.)
-- One bottle each of Kodak or Ilford liquid developer and fixer. (I use T-Max Liquid Developer and Kodak Rapid Fixer, but the Ilford liquids work just as well. The reason for using liquids is that you can mix small quantities more uniformly and easily than if you try to measure out powders.)
-- One bottle of Kodak Photo-Flo 200 and one bottle of isopropyl alcohol (from the drugstore.)

Here's how you do it:

-- Based on the dilutions in the instructions, work out how much developer and fixer solution you need for one fill of your tank. Use the markings on the paint-mixing cups to measure out the right amounts of water, and add the right amounts of concentrate as measured in your graduates. Fill one paint-mixing cup with your developer solution and another with your fixer.

-- Measure out some more water in another paint cup and add enough Photo-Flo to make a 1:200 dilution. Now add the same amount of isopropyl alcohol as Photo-Flo. (I'll tell you why later.)

-- Fill the other two paint mixing cups with plain water.

Leave all the paint mixing cups sitting on the kitchen counter for an hour or so. This should bring them all to the same temperature (as checked by your thermometer.) While you're waiting, go into your room-that-can-be-made-dark and load the tank.

When the tank is loaded, come back to the kitchen and line up the paint cups in the correct order: developer, water, fixer, water, and Photo-Flo/alcohol. You've probably already got some kind of timer in your kitchen (I use the one on my microwave) so set it to the correct time for your developer.

Pour the developer in the tank and agitate per directions until time is up. Pour the developer down the sink and pour in the first batch of water. Agitate it for 30 seconds as you reset the timer for fixing. Pour in the fixer and agitate per directions until time is up. Pour out the fixer and pour in the second batch of water; agitate it for a minute or so, then let it sit.

While the film sits, adjust the temperature of the water coming out of your faucet until it's pretty close to room temperature. When it is, pour the water out of the tank and set it under the faucet. Let the film wash for 20 minutes, dumping out the tank every few minutes to get the fixer off the bottom.

After 20 minutes, strip the film off the reel, have a peek against the light (you won't be able to resist the temptation) and then dump it into the last paint cup, the one with the Photo-Flo/alcohol mixture. Slosh the film around carefully for 30 seconds to a minute. (Don't try to do this with the film still on the reel; the Photo-Flo residue will be very hard to wash out of the reel.)

After the slosh, pull out the film and carry it into your bathroom (because this is usually the most dust-free room in the house.) Hang it from the shower rod using two spring clothespins fitted together tail-to-tail, so one end clips on the rod and the other end holds the film. Clip another clothespin to the lower end as a weight. Now go away.

In an hour or two your film will be dry. The Photo-Flo reduces surface tension, so most of the water slides off cleanly. The few traces that are left are repelled by the isopropyl alcohol, preventing the formation of those whitish "mineral tracks" that a lot of people get on their processed film.

You'll have sparkling-clean negatives that are ready to cut and print or scan. Your tank, reel, bottles of developer and fixer concentrate, paint mixing cups and graduates all will fit into a space smaller than a shoe box, easy to stuff into a kitchen cabinet until your next developing session.
 
Wow.. thanks for all the suggestions. I'll see what I can do.... next thing I'll need to learn is to how to push film during development.
 
Pushing is fun. Once you get the hang of deving your own film, ping us again and you'll get a lot of comments on pushing 🙂

allan
 

EL CHEEPO TIPS,,,,,,,,,,, All glass is created eqaul for storage and tanks and trays. Empty whiskey bottles spraypainted to keep light out with corks work great as long as you dont break them. Any kind of old cassarol cookware from goodwill or the neibors yard sale can be used, pyrex that is second hand is awsome. Any stainless kitchen ware from sams club will be cheeper than Photo dedicated gear. High dollar graduates are preffered but big shot needles from a vetnarian and cooking measurements are cheep and even free. Water temp can be controlled easily just by filling up some containers a day or two ahead of time and letting them become room temp and then ajusting all your times according to this constent temp instead of trying to heat, maintain, ajust, constent tempeures. Any sheet of glass and a light bulb can make contact prints, bigger neg = bigger contact print. Or just scan the negative and photoshop it.

Good Luck.
 
Interesting reading about the Photo Flo (I Guess that this is a wetting agent) used when the film is off the spiral.

Would the effect on the spiral be film sticking? certainly for loading a roll of 36 more than say a 24.

I'm experiencing sticky film loading toward the end of a roll and have always used a wetting agent with film on the spiral for washing. I was going to replace the spirals or try the metal tank system that can be used wet.
 
ywenz said:
I also shoot MF, how easy are those to develop in my apt?

Just as easy; the only extra you need is an appropriate-size reel (unless you use those adjustable plastic reels.)
 
No need to replace them just yet
Take them apart, borrow your mom-in-law toothbrush and give them a good scrub with dish soap
If the gum is very stubborn use some baking soda.


Fred said:
Interesting reading about the Photo Flo (I Guess that this is a wetting agent) used when the film is off the spiral.

Would the effect on the spiral be film sticking? certainly for loading a roll of 36 more than say a 24.

I'm experiencing sticky film loading toward the end of a roll and have always used a wetting agent with film on the spiral for washing. I was going to replace the spirals or try the metal tank system that can be used wet.
 
For cleaning spirals, there is a good advice from BKA use some hot solution off Sodium Sulfite to clean the reels, usually 50-60% just throw them in, this will remove old silver as well. After dipping into wetting agent I usually throw the reels into normal water so wetting agent is not going to stick to it.

Here in Germany Jobo is selling an almost complete kit (I think changing bag is not included).

Maybe just go into a second-shop make the dealer angry and he will throw tanks and reels at you, just watch out if he is throwing Rodinal in Glass bottles at you!!!

Some good Scotch already comes in brownish glass bottles, and usually around christmas they come in metal boxes, to store away from light (Chivas Regal)! We should test the airtight tops on Champagne bottles to impress the girls....

Skol!

Wolfram
 
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