amateriat
We're all light!
Well, a sellout at Photokina bodes rather well. The fact that they're issuing forth a film type currently unavailable on the market will likely gain them more traction as well. Won't mind trying out some of it myself.
- Barrett
- Barrett
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shaaktiman
Guest
I loved Scala but was always put off by having to leave it with the butchers at Duggal. When is this due to drop? Anyone?
I couldn't find any delivery date when I went looking this morning. Hopefully they will be represented at the Photo Expo next weekend.
traveller
Learning how to print
I sent them a mail asking for a datasheet in english, some information about availability and distribution partners in the US and Canada. No answer so far, maybe their marketing is not up to date...
Thank you traveller
amateriat
We're all light!
"The Butchers of Duggal": sounds like a good title for a modern photographer's opera.shaaktiman said:I loved Scala but was always put off by having to leave it with the butchers at Duggal. When is this due to drop? Anyone?
- Barrett
traveller
Learning how to print
Looks like you will have to be patient
135-24 should be available soon (at least in Germany)
135-36, 120 and bulk will be available at April 07
Source
Quick Translation with Babelfish
Rollei Retro Slide direct 50 - official information to the Agfa Scala successor
"Rollei Retro Slide direct 50" get's directly processed in conventional developers e.g. Agfa Rodinal. With correct exposure the results will be sufficient very well and for professional requirements. The picture-moderate quality of the new film is particularly suitable for scanning or for the pressure. The neutral black picture clay/tone works during the projection very pleasantly. Qualitatively the "Rollei Retro Slide direct is superior to 50" films of the kind Agfa Scala in the resolution! It is equivalent compared with other special films, because it dissolves speed (RHS) of approximately 360 pairs of lines in the Rollei high. The Agfa Scala comparatively approximately 120 under perfect conditions. The Rollei Retro Slide direct 50 is thereby a worthy successor of the unfortunately no longer available Agfa Scala. In addition the Rollei Retro Slide direct 50 is a competition which can be taken seriously to the highly soluble special negative films, which are offered mostly only in combination with specially co-ordinated chemistry. The "Rollei Retro Slide direct 50" originates from the kind of the diagram reproduction document microfilms and is provided with (orthochromatischen) a half-tone emulsion for the picture-moderate photography! It could to be applied therefore as successors of films as for the Agfa Scala without its complicated processing! Above all however the high clay/tone values and the simple processing captivate beside that extremely purify grain. Like the Agfa Scala is based the emulsion on a highly transparent PET Filmtraeger, even with ANTI NEWTON/NO CURLING back coating for perfect a planlage. Processing: Develop, stop, fix, waessern, dry: finished dia. the gradation of the Rollei Retro Slide direct 50 can be steered by use of different developers - kinds: 1. softer gradation, perfectly for later scanning and pressure. Developer: Rollei RLC low contrast # RLC11 2nd normal gradation, perfectly for the projection. Developer: Rollei RHS high speed # RHS11, or Agfa Rodinal 3rd harder gradation, perfectly for writings, reproductions developers: Rollei RHC high contrast # RHC11 with a such film should be individually prepared the developer/time combinations. Simplest processing like a negativfilm (therefore DIRECT) at the comparatively very attractive price. Immediately the Rollei Retro Slide direct 50 is available as 135-24. The introduction on the market of the complete Rollei Retro Slide direct 50 of assortment takes place in APRIL 2007, then it also 135-36 is offered, as 30.5 meters to long roller and as roll film.
Kind/prices/delivery time:
RSD1012 135-24 approx. 5,40 = starting from Photokina 2006
RSD1011 135-36 approx. 7,10 = starting from April 2007
RSD1001 120 approx. 6,75 = starting from April 2007
Official Distributors
Canada
BLAZES Photographic
38 Silver Shadow Path, Etobicoke
Ontario, M9X 4Y2, Canada
Tel.: +1 888 561 0906
Fax: +1 888 561 0906
mike@blazesphoto.com
www.blazesphoto.com
USA
SPI Supplies
Divison of STRUCTURE PROBE, Inc.
P.O.Box 656
West Chester
PA 19381-0656
Phone: +1 610 436-5400
Phone: +1-800-2424-SPI (USA and Canada)
Fax: +1 610 436-5755
macofilm@spi.com
www.2spi.com
Freestyle Photographic Supplies
5124 Sunset Blvd.
CA 90027 Los Angeles
+1 323 660 3450
+1 323 6663946
info@freestylephoto.biz
www.freestylephoto.biz
135-24 should be available soon (at least in Germany)
135-36, 120 and bulk will be available at April 07
Source
Quick Translation with Babelfish
Rollei Retro Slide direct 50 - official information to the Agfa Scala successor
"Rollei Retro Slide direct 50" get's directly processed in conventional developers e.g. Agfa Rodinal. With correct exposure the results will be sufficient very well and for professional requirements. The picture-moderate quality of the new film is particularly suitable for scanning or for the pressure. The neutral black picture clay/tone works during the projection very pleasantly. Qualitatively the "Rollei Retro Slide direct is superior to 50" films of the kind Agfa Scala in the resolution! It is equivalent compared with other special films, because it dissolves speed (RHS) of approximately 360 pairs of lines in the Rollei high. The Agfa Scala comparatively approximately 120 under perfect conditions. The Rollei Retro Slide direct 50 is thereby a worthy successor of the unfortunately no longer available Agfa Scala. In addition the Rollei Retro Slide direct 50 is a competition which can be taken seriously to the highly soluble special negative films, which are offered mostly only in combination with specially co-ordinated chemistry. The "Rollei Retro Slide direct 50" originates from the kind of the diagram reproduction document microfilms and is provided with (orthochromatischen) a half-tone emulsion for the picture-moderate photography! It could to be applied therefore as successors of films as for the Agfa Scala without its complicated processing! Above all however the high clay/tone values and the simple processing captivate beside that extremely purify grain. Like the Agfa Scala is based the emulsion on a highly transparent PET Filmtraeger, even with ANTI NEWTON/NO CURLING back coating for perfect a planlage. Processing: Develop, stop, fix, waessern, dry: finished dia. the gradation of the Rollei Retro Slide direct 50 can be steered by use of different developers - kinds: 1. softer gradation, perfectly for later scanning and pressure. Developer: Rollei RLC low contrast # RLC11 2nd normal gradation, perfectly for the projection. Developer: Rollei RHS high speed # RHS11, or Agfa Rodinal 3rd harder gradation, perfectly for writings, reproductions developers: Rollei RHC high contrast # RHC11 with a such film should be individually prepared the developer/time combinations. Simplest processing like a negativfilm (therefore DIRECT) at the comparatively very attractive price. Immediately the Rollei Retro Slide direct 50 is available as 135-24. The introduction on the market of the complete Rollei Retro Slide direct 50 of assortment takes place in APRIL 2007, then it also 135-36 is offered, as 30.5 meters to long roller and as roll film.
Kind/prices/delivery time:
RSD1012 135-24 approx. 5,40 = starting from Photokina 2006
RSD1011 135-36 approx. 7,10 = starting from April 2007
RSD1001 120 approx. 6,75 = starting from April 2007
Official Distributors
Canada
BLAZES Photographic
38 Silver Shadow Path, Etobicoke
Ontario, M9X 4Y2, Canada
Tel.: +1 888 561 0906
Fax: +1 888 561 0906
mike@blazesphoto.com
www.blazesphoto.com
USA
SPI Supplies
Divison of STRUCTURE PROBE, Inc.
P.O.Box 656
West Chester
PA 19381-0656
Phone: +1 610 436-5400
Phone: +1-800-2424-SPI (USA and Canada)
Fax: +1 610 436-5755
macofilm@spi.com
www.2spi.com
Freestyle Photographic Supplies
5124 Sunset Blvd.
CA 90027 Los Angeles
+1 323 660 3450
+1 323 6663946
info@freestylephoto.biz
www.freestylephoto.biz
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I will have my eye on Freestyle. They have the R3 and Rollei developer, almost bought some today.
keithwms
Established
How would this stuff compare to the dr5 process on more conventional films? Anybody know?
My stock of agfa scala is getting low....
Double amen.
My stock of agfa scala is getting low....
Nachkebia said:Sounds very interesting! at least more interesting then how clean M8 images are
Double amen.
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Terao
Kiloran
Retrophotographic in the UK have no news on availability as yet but will drop me an email when they do...
traveller
Learning how to print
Here is the official comment
Hello John!
Thank you very much for your interest for the new RSD film!
The ROLLEI RSD film (Rollei Slide Direct) was produced first exclusively as a prototype, and was offered in a rather small number at the Photokina, to prospective customers. The official market launch on this film, is planned for April, 2007 (Education Season in the USA). The film sensitivity amounts to ISO 10/20. The development must occur in a POWERFUL negative developer. We have good results made with the ROLLEI RHS, dilution 1+7, approx. 10 minutes, with the ROLLEI RHC, dilution 1+4, approx. 8 minutes (higher max. Dens.) improves. The first name RETRO and 50, is to be led back on a false interpretation of a new employee, and is owed in the haste before the Photokina. RETRO stands with us for TRIACETATE. Because of the RSD, nevertheless, is poured on P.E.T. (Estar), "Retro" should not be used. The number 50 comes from an internal assessment row and might never have reached to the outside, because now the danger exists, that
photographers accept the ISO value that would be connceted with the number.
This is not unambiguously the case! You can see where people work, mistakes can happen, fortunately, we and our customers, before the official market launch, still have to announce time, sound information. The distribution of the RSD film will also occur about the same traders / importers, how all the other ROLLEI products from the MACO house.
With kind regards
Hartmuth Schroeder
Director of the
MACO PHOTO PRODUCTS
Hello John!
Thank you very much for your interest for the new RSD film!
The ROLLEI RSD film (Rollei Slide Direct) was produced first exclusively as a prototype, and was offered in a rather small number at the Photokina, to prospective customers. The official market launch on this film, is planned for April, 2007 (Education Season in the USA). The film sensitivity amounts to ISO 10/20. The development must occur in a POWERFUL negative developer. We have good results made with the ROLLEI RHS, dilution 1+7, approx. 10 minutes, with the ROLLEI RHC, dilution 1+4, approx. 8 minutes (higher max. Dens.) improves. The first name RETRO and 50, is to be led back on a false interpretation of a new employee, and is owed in the haste before the Photokina. RETRO stands with us for TRIACETATE. Because of the RSD, nevertheless, is poured on P.E.T. (Estar), "Retro" should not be used. The number 50 comes from an internal assessment row and might never have reached to the outside, because now the danger exists, that
photographers accept the ISO value that would be connceted with the number.
This is not unambiguously the case! You can see where people work, mistakes can happen, fortunately, we and our customers, before the official market launch, still have to announce time, sound information. The distribution of the RSD film will also occur about the same traders / importers, how all the other ROLLEI products from the MACO house.
With kind regards
Hartmuth Schroeder
Director of the
MACO PHOTO PRODUCTS
Nachkebia
Well-known
Slower it is, lover the noise, gimme gimme gimme
titrisol
Bottom Feeder
Robert Vonk aka fotohuis said it'll be available prety soon.
wyk_penguin
Well-known
After begging the local lab to do XP2 in E-6 and bleaching T-Max myself, I don't mind if they make something at ISO10 and sell it for outrageous prices. I miss Scala though.
April 2007..... 6 more months of waiting and drooling.
April 2007..... 6 more months of waiting and drooling.
I bet this has been in the works for a while. Yesterday I read the tech data sheet for Rollei R3 in which it mentioned the film base of that film was also a perfect base for a B&W slide film. It was published in 2004.
http://www.freestylephoto.biz/pdf/Rollie_R3.pdf
http://www.freestylephoto.biz/pdf/Rollie_R3.pdf
traveller
Learning how to print
So I asked for example photos but Maco want to present photos themselves, no wonder. But I got another bit of information and that will be it for now. Maybe in time I will get more information about developing but the way I see it that will take some time as there is no mentioning about selling the first rolls before april.
Just a quick and dirty translation with babelfish, I got some work waiting for me
The gradation can be steered with developers, depending upon the personal needs/desires of the user. At this time we test the developer Rollei RLC , looks like this developer offers the best possibilities. It has strength and tends not to increase the fog with extended development times for the steeper gradation. What I had forgotten to mention: THIS RSD film originates from a technology, which was originally conceived on copying from negativfilm to negativfilm by contact on direct way. Therefore a halation protective layer (anti halation more layer) was not necessary. It can therefore be that with cameras, which have a shining pressure plate, quite disturbing reflections can occur. That can disturb, can however also an additional means to creative use of these films be.
Just a quick and dirty translation with babelfish, I got some work waiting for me
The gradation can be steered with developers, depending upon the personal needs/desires of the user. At this time we test the developer Rollei RLC , looks like this developer offers the best possibilities. It has strength and tends not to increase the fog with extended development times for the steeper gradation. What I had forgotten to mention: THIS RSD film originates from a technology, which was originally conceived on copying from negativfilm to negativfilm by contact on direct way. Therefore a halation protective layer (anti halation more layer) was not necessary. It can therefore be that with cameras, which have a shining pressure plate, quite disturbing reflections can occur. That can disturb, can however also an additional means to creative use of these films be.
Ash
Selflessly Self-involved
Bring on 2007!
Goodyear
Happy-snap ninja
This sounds very interesting indeed.
traveller
Learning how to print
Ash said:Bring on 2007!
Anybody needs a nice Xmas present?
135-36 will be available in November
4x5" and 10x10" (no mistake) will be available in December
So it's time for the addicted to ask their pushers about delivery dates
RoyK
Newbie
...and sheets
...and sheets
The Datenblatt_ROLLEI_DIA_DIRECT.pdf says
- glasklarer PET-Träger
100 μm KB- und Rollfilme
180 μm Planfilme
So it looks like they've even made sheets
roy
...and sheets
BJ Bignell said:The first paragraph of the PDF:And my rough translation to English (the first two sentences were easy, the rest I got some help from the Internet):
Near the bottom of the second page they recommend developers for soft contrast for scanning and printing as ROLLEI RLC11, normal contrast for projection as ROLLEI RHS11, and high contrast for graphics or reproduction as RHC11. It should also be compatible with developers from Agfa, Ilford, Kodak, Tetenal, and others.
It will be made available in 135x24 and 135x36 rolls, as well as 120 rollfilm.
The Datenblatt_ROLLEI_DIA_DIRECT.pdf says
- glasklarer PET-Träger
100 μm KB- und Rollfilme
180 μm Planfilme
So it looks like they've even made sheets
roy
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