craygc
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For that price I can buy a brand new Mamiya 7II + the 65mm or 80mm lens
Bad news........
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For that price I can buy a brand new Mamiya 7II + the 65mm or 80mm lens
ZeissFan
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This just goes to show you how price is relative.
Consumers have no problem paying $500 for a point and shoot digital when a $100 film point and shoot would give them better results.
A full-frame digital body will cost at least $2,000 and up to $8,000 -- just the body and no lens. And this is for a product that you know will be replaced within the next two years or sooner. There's no way that you would pay $8,000 for a film body.
"Yeah, but it's digital," will be the argument to support the lofty price.
In any case, while the cost of the new Fuji folder is higher than a lot of people would like to see, especially those used to buying used cameras for $200 or less, the pricing isn't out of line for a new limited-production camera.
Consumers have no problem paying $500 for a point and shoot digital when a $100 film point and shoot would give them better results.
A full-frame digital body will cost at least $2,000 and up to $8,000 -- just the body and no lens. And this is for a product that you know will be replaced within the next two years or sooner. There's no way that you would pay $8,000 for a film body.
"Yeah, but it's digital," will be the argument to support the lofty price.
In any case, while the cost of the new Fuji folder is higher than a lot of people would like to see, especially those used to buying used cameras for $200 or less, the pricing isn't out of line for a new limited-production camera.
antistatic
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kully
Happy Snapper
I don't understand - you can always buy something 'better' used vs. something new. Am I missing something?
ChrisPlatt
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After all the hype (especially here on RFF), wouldn't it be ironic
if these remained largely unsold on dealer's shelves? 😉
Chris
if these remained largely unsold on dealer's shelves? 😉
Chris
Krosya
Konicaze
I'm sure they'll sell them. Mostly to collectors. As far as users - well, we have many other cheaper and often as good or better options - thanks to ebay. To bad though - I wanted to try one of these, yet at $2100 USD I'd rather get that M-Hexanon 50/1.2 I wanted for a long time - it'd get a lot more use than a folder with 80/3.5 lens. My old Weltur has faster lens! And I'd pretty happy with it. But as I said - some collectors will be happy.
kuzano
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Re: Collectors???
Re: Collectors???
I'm a bit disappointed, but not surprised. Also, I don't think anything is written in stone, until we see them on the market.
I'm hoping there is something in the "Stimulus Package" for photographers and camera manufacturing companies. The latest is that there is something in the package to bolster the large motor home and RV market....Wassup w/that???
Regarding collectors, I am quite aware that collectors are strange people and tend to FU the used market for actual users. I can see collectors in Nikon, Canon, Rollei, and some others. But, are there actually people out there collecting Fuji and contemporary Voightlander cameras.
I love my Fujicas and Fuji's, but collecting them,... Hmmmm?
Re: Collectors???
I'm a bit disappointed, but not surprised. Also, I don't think anything is written in stone, until we see them on the market.
I'm hoping there is something in the "Stimulus Package" for photographers and camera manufacturing companies. The latest is that there is something in the package to bolster the large motor home and RV market....Wassup w/that???
Regarding collectors, I am quite aware that collectors are strange people and tend to FU the used market for actual users. I can see collectors in Nikon, Canon, Rollei, and some others. But, are there actually people out there collecting Fuji and contemporary Voightlander cameras.
I love my Fujicas and Fuji's, but collecting them,... Hmmmm?
Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
Kuzano,
RVs are made in USA, cameras are not. I'd be angry if the US government wasted money supporting foreign companies, especially ones who do not make anything here.
RVs are made in USA, cameras are not. I'd be angry if the US government wasted money supporting foreign companies, especially ones who do not make anything here.
ElrodCod
Established
$2400 for a $300 camera....amazing.
P C Headland
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Solinar
Analog Preferred
If you run the original cost of high end folders from the 1950's through an inflation calculator - their prices started at about $1000 USD in today's dollars - with the most expensive models pushing somewhere between $1400 and $1700 in today's dollars. Entry level folders were priced at $300 to $400 in today's dollars, if their original price is indexed to inflation.
Keep in mind that the cost of a movie ticket in the 1950's was 50 cents, $.25 for the early matinee. It surprises me - that the high end folders sold as well as they did back in the day.
As for myself - anything over the $1400 range for the Bessa III will be beyond the reach of my current household budget. Such is life.
emraphoto
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perhaps the point was that one could obtain a very fine medium format folder on the used market today for $300? regardless of "relative" original pricing today they are plentiful and cheap'ish.
i certainly don't want to jump the gun on price but sub $1000... for sure i would have bought one. was kind of excited to. $2400? nope.
i certainly don't want to jump the gun on price but sub $1000... for sure i would have bought one. was kind of excited to. $2400? nope.
