Bad Rangefinder Videos by RF Wanabees

CameraQuest said:
Is anyone else appalled by rangefinder videos by wannabee rangefinder experts who don't really know rangefinders?

the sad thing is that their audience knows even less about rangefinders
than the wannabees, so they get taken in by
"experts" who don't know enough to realize how little
they do know about rangefinders.
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I've observed this about photo forums too. There's a lot of bad advice circulating.
 
Oh wow. This is satire right? Right?!
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Yeah...a real goof artist..gotta luv it...lol..

Highest score! With Leica in bed and shaking.
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Funny stuff...well done nerd comedy..
Million $ camera lenses..total lack of video info...zoom lens...F16...pro 6K lens..takes nice pictures..hahaha!
 
x-ray said:
I've observed this about photo forums too. There's a lot of bad advice circulating.
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The advice giver with the highest post count wins.

The Accuracy of an experienced writer's information is (often) of little value, as the information isn't verified by lazy readers. And, being words written on the internet .. they are just words.

I don't dispense any advice unless specifically asked; and only about a topic I know very, very well... and then expect to be challenged by some with no experience on the topic.

Everyone on the internet and on social media are photographers it seems. And a good half of them are "Experts".. just ask them..

Life is much to short..
 
PKR said:
The advice giver with the highest post count wins.

The Accuracy of an experienced writer's information is (often) of little value, as the information isn't verified by lazy readers. And, being words written on the internet .. they are just words.

I don't dispense any advice unless specifically asked; and only about a topic I know very, very well... and then expect to be challenged by some with no experience on the topic.

Everyone on the internet and on social media are photographers it seems. And a good half of them are "Experts".. just ask them..

Life is much to short..
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You're completely right. It's a popularity contest based on giving praise for poor photos and information that people want to hear whether right or not.

I used to read a couple of other forums. One digital forum had a fellow named Melvin Sokolsky contributing. I think Melvin is still shooting. Anyway he shot Harpers, Vogue and many more major publications. Google his name. Melvin is on the level of Avedon, Penn and Bert Stern. Sadly he quit contributing because know it all amateurs shouted him down.
 
x-ray said:
You're completely right. It's a popularity contest based on giving praise for poor photos and information that people want to hear whether right or not.

I used to read a couple of other forums. One digital forum had a fellow named Melvin Sokolsky contributing. I think Melvin is still shooting. Anyway he shot Harpers, Vogue and many more major publications. Google his name. Melvin is on the level of Avedon, Penn and Bert Stern. Sadly he quit contributing because know it all amateurs shouted him down.
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I have a friend who is famous in his technical field. He's also a good writer and publishes constantly. He once mentioned all the government agencies who order large quantities of his books, used as texts for keeping engineers current on his topic of expertise.

I was at a gathering of these technical people. I went in order to have lunch with my friend after the event. I found him in a heated discussion with a tech guy. There were many people surrounding the two. They wanted to hear what was being said. My friend told the tech guy that he was wrong. The tech guy cited information written in one of my friend's books as a counter to my friend's argument.

It became obvious that the tech guy didn't know who my friend was, and that he was the author of the text cited. People surrounding the two kept trying to interrupt to tell the tech guy who he was arguing with, but each time my friend stopped them.

My friend ended the discussion with the following: He said, the author of all those books has made mistakes and corrects them as quickly as possible. And, as in this case, information changes over time. He said, I personally know that author and know for a fact that he was wrong on that topic, as the information changed during publishing.

The tech guy told my friend that he was full of s### and that he had read all of his (the author's) books and never found him inaccurate on any subject.

This is published academic stuff.. the internet is galaxies away from academic rigor.

"You can't put sense in a fool's mind" - Rex Stout

pkr
 
"You can't put sense in a fool's mind" - Rex Stout
Now there's a name to conjure with. I must have read dozens of his Nero Wolfe books.
 
ikanagas on YouTube is one of the best parody channels I've seen. It's awesome.

"Leica Review" is so goshdarned annoying. He spreads misinformation constantly (Leica rangefinder lenses focus down to 50cm???), "reviews" cameras he doesn't own and has never shot, and yet his videos are shot with a RED Epic Dragon, which costs tens of thousands of dollars. Unsuspecting people will see the presentation quality and think he knows what he's talking about, which is just plain unfortunate.

At least someone like Eric Kim readily admits that he is self taught and still learning, and that his opinions may be wrong. I just read one of his articles in which he says that he bought a M9 thinking it would make him a better photographer, he would take better pictures, and he would be happy with it for the rest of his life. But none of these things happened, and it ended up sitting on the shelf after a month, then traded for a MP some months later.

The funny thing is, I bought the M9 with none of those expectations, but all of what he was expecting came true for me. It took me a month of solid use to get acquainted with the M9. After that, I began to take some of the best photos I had ever made. It inspired the heck out of me, and seven years later it is the camera I reach for when I want really high quality images with "soul". Buying the M9 absolutely inspired and provoked me to become a much better photographer. And yet, you don't see me making YouTube videos about the rangefinder experience.
 
This is the problem with the internet, people "need" to produce content so they put out tons of stuff that is not accurate. The more content you produce, the more people follow you, the more people follow you, the more credit people think you have, its a cycle.

I can't tell you the amount of "reviews" i've seen that just have incorrect info. It is a lot. But the reviewer has a high follower count, when they get corrected, the hoards just shout you down.
 
Hogarth Ferguson said:
This is the problem with the internet, people "need" to produce content so they put out tons of stuff that is not accurate. The more content you produce, the more people follow you, the more people follow you, the more credit people think you have, its a cycle.

I can't tell you the amount of "reviews" i've seen that just have incorrect info. It is a lot. But the reviewer has a high follower count, when they get corrected, the hoards just shout you down.
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Hogarth Ferguson said:
This is the problem with the internet, people "need" to produce content so they put out tons of stuff that is not accurate. The more content you produce, the more people follow you, the more people follow you, the more credit people think you have, its a cycle.

I can't tell you the amount of "reviews" i've seen that just have incorrect info. It is a lot. But the reviewer has a high follower count, when they get corrected, the hoards just shout you down.
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Yup :rolleyes: This garbage below, for example. I don't even know how people make this stuff up. I explained why its garbage here, and the poster even acknowledged it in a later post, but the post remains uncorrected nonetheless. I suppose its fate is to be copied and repeated all over the internet by those too lazy/unwilling to do their own research, and will eventually become internet "fact" :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

"Nikon actually started as a lens manufacturer for these screw-fitting rangefinders, especially the Canons in Japan. Formed in 1917 it was originally known as Nikkor"

http://rangefinderchronicles.blogspot.jp/2016/04/my-beautiful-souvenir-from-japan_9.html
 
The absolute drek that some "writers" put out there on the Internet is mind-boggling sometimes. :( I offer this as an example, and yes, it's somewhat photography related.

Last Friday, the following link was posted in Yahoo news:

https://www.yahoo.com/style/iconic-neon-sign-officially-retired-210050715.html

When viewing the so-called article, it appears that they are reporting that the well-known "Welcome Fabulous To Las Vegas" sign, which stands on Las Vegas Boulevard at the south end of the Strip, is being retired. The words "This sign" appear right under a photo of the WTFLV" sign. That sign is, of course, a very commonly photographed landmark.

The story then reports, LOL, almost in fine print, :) that it's the downtown Vegas Vickie (aka Sassy Sally) sign that's being removed. The VV/SS sign is nowhere near the Las Vegas Strip!

"Poorly-written click-bait" is what I wrote in the comments, and mine was one of the nicer ones posted at the time.
 
dmr said:
Last Friday, the following link was posted in Yahoo news:
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Yahoo news is the worst. Absolute bottom of the barrel. If there is anything worse, I am unaware of it.

Typical click-bait headline on Yahoo News: "21 Celebrities You Didn't Know Had Facelifts". And invariably, the lead photo turns out to be someone not mentioned in the article.

The "regular" media isn't much better. For years, the ABC National News used stock film footage of a GM car to illustrate news stories about GM.... Long after the pictured automobile was discontinued! I couldn't help wonder; is this a current story or a re-run of some news from 1995?
 
i think the bigger problem is that the people who are more knowledgeable don't speak up or make videos. as what was pointed out, it is the same elsewhere and is absolutely true in the martial arts world. :eek: :eek: :eek:
 
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