sepiareverb
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Still using the Monochrom CCD here.
Best camera for low light social photography - to replace / supplement M9??
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Fraser
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A quick picture in my office 5dmk3 51200iso, and yes the wall is yellow.
17fbpicCanon5d51_001 by f4saregreat!, on Flickr
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airfrogusmc
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They look great at 13 X 19 prints and some were used in a printed news letter.
I also love my original MM but the M 10 is much better in low light. It is better than a 5DIV.
airfrogusmc
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Both of those cameras are heavy and large and the M 10 is better in low light than the 5DIII. I shot with Canon digital for a decade. Glad to be Leica M now.
Fraser
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No way is a leica m10 better in low light than any of the canons, Nikons, Sonys etc, maybe as good but no better. Plus a Canon 5dmk3 secondhand in the uk can be had for a about £1200 how much is a secondhand M10. Even a Nikon df with a 58mm 1.4 new would be less than a secondhand M10.
willie_901
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If one has a large collection of M/LTM lenses, the other cameras with signal-to-noise ratios as high, or maybe 1/3 to 1/3 stop better, don't matter. None of these cameras have optical rangefinders.
The M10 is the first digital M whose S/N with competitive S/N compared to many other newer color-filter array cameras.
The Leica M Monochrom (Typ 246) is better than almost all other brands with 24 X 36 mm sensor areas when it comes to S/N.
These are not opinions or ad-hoc impression. They are based on data.
Paul T.
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It's really horses for courses.
Personally, my main use for a camera is photographing interviewees for my website. I can't afford to disturb the flow of an interview. I tried doing this yonks ago with a quiet SLR< the OM1. It's simply too disruptive; people become too self-conscious, they pose, and more crucially you disturb the thread of the interview. So I simply stopped doing the photos.
The Hexar AF was the camera that solved the problem. Something like an X100 would be fine, too. And likely an M10 etc.
FOlks often exaggerate why you need a Leica, because for most photography an SLR isn't really that intrusive. But close up, you bet it is. Of course, if you're 10 feet away a 5D will be fine - look at Pete Souza's work - but you can't immediately assume it's ok in an intimate setting.
airfrogusmc
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Have you ever worked on the files from an M 10? Maybe you should. It might be very eye opening. I have shot a lot with 5DIIIs and I know from real experience what is better and what I would rather shoot with and I am glad that photography pays for everything so I don't have to settle. I shoot with what matches the way I see and work. Leica M is that tool for me and the files from the M 10 are from real experience, just what I described. Those big Canons and Nikons are not true rangefinders and are a lot larger. The OP asked for a low light compliment to the M9 and I don't like supporting a lot of different camera systems so I would never recommend that. Nice to have choices.
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