tenter10
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Dear Jack,
The clue to your animosity lies in this phrase.
Fine. You want happy-snaps. But there are other aspects to photography. Your value judgements -- 'awful, stark, depressing' and 'garbage' -- do not resonate with all of us. Mostly, though, we are too polite to label your views 'garbage'.My friend I am sorry about the garbage, I started this thread to show a different point of view. To me who was raised post WW2 with all its harshness and stark reality,when colour prints came out it opened a whole new world.B&W reminds me of those times colour introduces light.
tenter10
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Jack - MATE!
have you been drinking?
ricnak
Well-known
I have.
I just had nice red wine with dinner.
Thank you for asking.
The reason I asked you.. is that your opening comment seemed a little antagonistic to me.
I like harmony, RFF and B&W.
I just had nice red wine with dinner.
Thank you for asking.
The reason I asked you.. is that your opening comment seemed a little antagonistic to me.
I like harmony, RFF and B&W.
skibeerr
Well-known
What a waste of time.
tenter10
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Dear Jack,
The clue to your animosity lies in this phrase.
Fine. You want happy-snaps. But there are other aspects to photography. Your value judgements -- 'awful, stark, depressing' and 'garbage' -- do not resonate with all of us. Mostly, though, we are too polite to label your views 'garbage'.
Cheers,
R.
Sparrow
Veteran
Who's that tripping over my bridge?
you do know that it is a free world, well here anyway, I have my opinion you have yours
Well there Jack, it took you 25 posts to get to the only truth in this thread. Everything is just an opinion, and every opinion only has to be correct to it's holder. So, it would do you and everyone else well to remember this and care less about messing with others' opinions.
fireblade
Vincenzo.
Jack....you don't like an aussie sunset in B&W? 

Bill58
Native Texan
For me, the color just overpowers the image.
tenter10
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I have.
I just had nice red wine with dinner.
Thank you for asking.
The reason I asked you.. is that your opening comment seemed a little antagonistic to me.
I like harmony, RFF and B&W.
I use both...why not? They both work equally as well. Open your mind...
cambolt
Green Spotted Nose Turtle
Millions if not billions of photographs have been taken. Many are very similar to each other. So why do any of us still bother taking photographs?
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Cut Jack a little slack! 
I don't think he's trolling ... expressing an opinion somewhat forcefully but that's all IMO.
As for black and white it can create a mood that would be difficult to express with colour a lot of the time.
I don't think he's trolling ... expressing an opinion somewhat forcefully but that's all IMO.
As for black and white it can create a mood that would be difficult to express with colour a lot of the time.
jmilkins
Digited User
Jack - MATE!
have you been drinking?
GOLD Aussie humour - jeez i larfed. And for our OS friends the OP was culturally just an Aussie calling a shovel a shovel.. don' tthink it was meant come across so harsh.
And Jack does celebrate moments where colour can be sublime, and he made me think of the many blues in a glacier or iceberg.
It really is down to personal taste. Me - I like both mono and colour, but haven't come close to achieving the standard I see in others work here. Never mind, I enjoy the learning.
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tenter10
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I enjoy shooting black and white. I don't find this dark/depressing/grainy/etc. I've had the opposite statement thrown at some of my recent results, that it is too clean and lacks character.
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Beyond liking black and white, color is both a hassle and doesn't really fit how I see right now.
pinafore2
Established
Imaginary colours ?
philipb
Established
..B&W reminds me of the news at the movies post war of, the hosing out of tail gunners of bombers and all the harsh times until the 50s. The statement why bother is a reminder to me of those times. I remember the HASSALBLAD photos of earth from space and the great blues, I remember the blue mountains west of Sydney and being able to record the haziness in colour. The unique greens wonderful.I will admit to me B&W photos are clinically great`the lines sharp but no oomph regards Jack
That seems totally reasonable to me. If B&W reminds you of harsh times, then colour is for you.
B&W reminds me of pictures of my grandparents in good times, so I like it. That said, I predominantly use colour, probably because good B&W takes a skill I don't have yet.
Paolo Bonello
3 from 36 on a good day.
I consider myself lucky that I can connect with beautiful colour and black & white photography in a positive way. They are two sides of the same coin for me.
Hello: when I was growing up all we had was B&W and wasn't it awful,stark,depressing.Colour came along and we could record what we see. Great .But now everyone seems to want to go back to ugly B&W. Why? You do know our brain does register colour?
OK, I think we all get that you don't like black and white. We all have our own tastes on various genres and (need I say) the films, or digital media and equipment we like to use. Your opinion is as legitimate as other members', even if it is likely to be in the minority in this forum.
But you use words like "ugly, "awful" and "depressing". What are you trying to achieve by starting the discussion? If it is a genuine understanding of why people prefer black and white—fair enough—I doubt you would find a finer site on all the web in which to engage in intelligent discussion of the issue. But it seems fairly clear you're rigidly set in your opinion of black and white—and you've summarily dismissed another member's efforts (in good faith, as far as I can see) to elaborate on the question you asked, as "garbage"—so I don't understand what you really hope to achieve, by asking your question, if you're not open to the answers people give you? And at best, your response to the reply I referred to above comes across as somewhat churlish; at worst, rather rude. Neither of which, will get you very far on this site...manners cost nothing, and matter here (they matter nearly everywhere, actually, but that is another topic for another time).
Regards,
Brett
sig
Well-known
Jack, remember that the audience here is not VB drinking ute owners.... you have to be delicate.
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