bob cole
Well-known
raid
Dad Photographer
I don't know who was telling the truth and who was not, and I don't know the details. Hence, I have no comment.
Gumby
Veteran
raid said:I don't know who was telling the truth and who was not, and I don't know the details. Hence, I have no comment.
Me neither, who knows what the truth is... so I won't post a response either.
bob cole
Well-known
Bob Shell Sentenced to Prison
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I also have no comment...
Gumby said:Me neither, who knows what the truth is... so I won't post a response either.
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I also have no comment...
dmr
Registered Abuser
Well, I have a comment.
Guilty or innocent, this incident unfortunately highlights the darker side of our craft, the connection with the adult industry, which is about as seedy as you can get.
This "industry" is deeply entwined with the drug scene and the commercial sex scene, and yes, organized crime. 
I'm not a prude at all, far from it. I can appreciate such things as the "darker" photos occasionally shown by one of our Canadian members, and I think I have a very good feeling for what is art and what is porn, and yes, there is a difference.
It shows that being a model for such works is not as glamorous as some think.
Guilty or innocent, this incident unfortunately highlights the darker side of our craft, the connection with the adult industry, which is about as seedy as you can get.
I'm not a prude at all, far from it. I can appreciate such things as the "darker" photos occasionally shown by one of our Canadian members, and I think I have a very good feeling for what is art and what is porn, and yes, there is a difference.
It shows that being a model for such works is not as glamorous as some think.
Paulbe
Well-known
Also he was the editor of Shutterbug mag for a while--it just seems odd--the whole thing. Sad for all involved...
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
I have no idea what/who is involved. Google to the rescue...
We had a similar thread when his sentance was given. I think I will move this to the OT forum.
mwooten
light user
I concur with DMR post above.
I really dislike being on juries.
I really dislike being on juries.
raid
Dad Photographer
Bob gave me a shot at selling slides through Mega Press, which is/was a well-known Japanese stock agency.
Al Patterson
Ferroequinologist
I still think the jail time is excessive. In some other parts of the country he'd get maybe 5 to 7 years. Here in Delaware I've seen drunk drivers get 30 months OR LESS for killing someone in a car accident.
And please note that I'm NOT putting down Virginia or the South here. It may be the case that the folks in Virginia are the right thinking ones, and the OTHER regions of tthe US are too lax in sentencing.
And please note that I'm NOT putting down Virginia or the South here. It may be the case that the folks in Virginia are the right thinking ones, and the OTHER regions of tthe US are too lax in sentencing.
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Al Patterson
Ferroequinologist
colyn
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Al Patterson said:I still think the jail time is excessive.
I have to disagree. He has not accepted responsibility...he only apologized to the jury for having to see his photos and videos..
While he may not have directly caused her death he did contribute to it..
John Camp
Well-known
It wasn't the death that got the most time -- it was the totality of the circumstances.
If she'd died because she'd given herself an overdose of morphine, that she'd gotten on her own, he would have been acquitted; if he'd helped with the injection, he might have gotten a year or two.
But he was convicted of supplying her with the morphine, and then apparently of attempting several sexual acts with her dying body. When you pile all of that together, with the attendant publicity (judges are human) there's going to be a stiff sentence. I also think it's likely that the sentence will be reduced on appeal. That's often the case with high-profile convictions; a big sentence initially to make a point, then a quiet reduction on appeal. Still, at his age, going to Virginia prisons, I doubt that he'll see blue sky again.
JC
If she'd died because she'd given herself an overdose of morphine, that she'd gotten on her own, he would have been acquitted; if he'd helped with the injection, he might have gotten a year or two.
But he was convicted of supplying her with the morphine, and then apparently of attempting several sexual acts with her dying body. When you pile all of that together, with the attendant publicity (judges are human) there's going to be a stiff sentence. I also think it's likely that the sentence will be reduced on appeal. That's often the case with high-profile convictions; a big sentence initially to make a point, then a quiet reduction on appeal. Still, at his age, going to Virginia prisons, I doubt that he'll see blue sky again.
JC
orangefunk
Newbie
A blast from the past. I remember seeing Bob's name back when I was in school looking at the classified gear ads in shutter bug mag.
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
toyotadesigner said:I didn't know that. How pervert. So instead of calling help he tried to develop a new art form of a dying model having some sort of sex...?<sigh> That's disgusting. Somehow too much for me to get it into my brain.
Shell's story was a bit different. I'm not convinced the prosecution wasn't lying in this one.
micromontenegro
Well-known
"Members of Franklin's family watched as Shell was sentenced, with the remains of Franklin's father, Dale, in a wooden urn sitting along side them".
Well...
Well...
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