Body/Lens mount orientation question.

[pippy]

Gosh!
This thread has grown since I last visited! Quite a lot to take in and digest but further to points raised about numbers stamped on the reverse of the infinity-lock arm I've had a squint with a lupe and it's almost a certainty that the lens I have which is stamped '52' (pictured in post #19) has '52' stamped on the arm. I haven't unscrewed the barrel and there is a lot of detritus to clean. I haven't time now but I will have a look soon.

I'm learning an awful lot in this thread and thank you all for educating me!

Pip.

 

[geoffox23]

Pip

Well if that's the case, then you have one of the very first lenses to issue in 1948.

The earliest post-war passport I have seen is for #210033 with lens #209 with the date of 10 July 1948.

It's a keeper.

 

[Ko.Fe.]

"The Germans retook Kharkov only a month later and abandoned it for the last time on 22nd August 1943. The FED camera factory and the buildings of the former Dzerzhinsky Commune were also totally destroyed. FED production probably ceased with the first takeover of 1941."

It was no equipment left in factory buildings on occupied territories. It was EMPTY. FED was evacuated with 25% of original workers, because many of them were at war.

One of my grandfathers was director of one of many evacuated factories like FED. They build new buildings from empty grounds within couple of months and production was back within another couple of months.
Before war FED was re profiled and expanded to make military optics and pumps for engines.
Do you seriously think what this kind of factory was left to Hitler?

It was not typical war in Europe, then German took over entire France, but it was business as usual. USSR was evacuating factories and rebuilding them on non occupied territories, which were most.

My uncle huge family went from Rzev to Kazakhstan in evacuation.
My mother and grandmother went to small village between Rzev and Moscow. It was deep in the forest and between rivers, nazis never came, but my mother still remember fascists bombers flying over their hiding place.

FED optical part of manufacturing (military most) after war went to Krasnogorsk near Moscow and became known as KMZ. They still do military and space optics in this place. This is why they still able to make this 35 1.2 for re-labeled as Zenit Lieca. And bunch of Lomography optics.
But in small quantities. War is still more profitable in Russia.

 

[David Hughes]

Hi,


I wasn't saying that you were wrong and that I was right. I was merely shifting the blame to the article I read and remembered.

Like everything else I read on the internet I take it with a pinch of salt until I can double check it and sometimes I can't be bothered because of the work involved. Anything involving Ukrainian history makes it extra difficult.

I've already said that I didn't believe the bit in the article about a micron's worth of accuracy machining FED parts.

Regards, David

 

[Ko.Fe.]

If you are interested in real Ukranian history, feel free to ask. My family friend is Ukranian who was digging his country history since he was at school. Non official, not Soviet changed history.

 

[David Hughes]

If you are interested in real Ukranian history, feel free to ask. My family friend is Ukranian who was digging his country history since he was at school. Non official, not Soviet changed history.

Hi,

Thanks for the offer but...

About thirty years ago just after I'd retired I had the time, energy and money to do a lot of research into one or two things and now I know what is involved I think "never again" even though it was interesting tracing people who had worked on things before the war and so on.

And slide film is expensive and needed to get your money back on the lecture/talk circuit...

But thanks anyway.

Regards, David

 

[pippy]

Just an update to confirm that the pair of FED lenses I was discussing both have their matching numbers stamped on the rear of the infinity-lock arm so things are fine from the lens/flange compatibility stakes.

...all Canon LTM lenses from the post-serenar period should mount on a Leica IIIc without difficulty. If not, there's something odd going on...

......erm......mea culpa, I'm afraid. All is now clear - and I mean that quite literally...

That bit I mentioned earlier when I noticed I had a problem offering up a late-model ('83) Jupiter 8? It turns out that the J-8 wasn't just in good condition when I bought it the other week; it was actually NOS. The 'fouling' I encountered was the black paint being scraped-off the lens threads on this, the first occasion it had ever been mounted to a body. The Canon lens, being the next lens attached to the same body, picked up all the discarded black gunk and it was this which was jamming the threads from being silky-smooth. I saw it all today and, after a spring-clean, all is well with the world once more......

......

Going off on a tangent for a moment;
The 'second' FED lens was bought 'on its own' and not with a body. When it arrived it came in a small leather lens-case. Inside the lid of this case there are two things which caught my eye and I wonder if anyone can shed light on these? First is a blind-embossed stamp in the shape of a lozenge with (a dealership's?) lettering around the inner-edge. Second is a very faint ink-stamp.

A few snaps (from my 'phone(!)...
I've ramped-up the contrast of the first one in photoshop to try to highlight the markings as they are very difficult to see with the naked eye even under contrasty lighting. Second and third are just general pics of the case.

Thanking anyone for any suggestions in advance!

Pip.