ampguy
Veteran
yeah
yeah
something's fishy with this story, possibly the wedding/photo thing was a cover up ...
yeah
something's fishy with this story, possibly the wedding/photo thing was a cover up ...
ampguy
Veteran
sounds nice
sounds nice
sounds like a fine rule, maybe another one would be to avoid pulling the trigger unless you mean to do some damage ...
sounds nice
sounds like a fine rule, maybe another one would be to avoid pulling the trigger unless you mean to do some damage ...
nikon_sam
Shooter of Film...
Anyone want to shoot an Italian wedding next weekend...you know they'll be looking for a new photographer soon...
ampguy
Veteran
perhaps
perhaps
you should offer to have the prints made at Costco sp. this time, instead of some homebrewed inkjet contraption
perhaps
you should offer to have the prints made at Costco sp. this time, instead of some homebrewed inkjet contraption
Michael Da Re
Well-known
Agreed. There's much more to this than is being printed.
semilog
curmudgeonly optimist
paulfish4570
Veteran
All guns are loaded, period, unless proven otherwise.
What a tragedy ...
What a tragedy ...
dmr
Registered Abuser
See, I told you I had good reasons to never, ever photograph a wedding!
(This sounds like it should be in the Weekly World News.) <semi grin>
(This sounds like it should be in the Weekly World News.) <semi grin>
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Blame. The victim. If. It was. His stupid idea.
Even if it wasn't, anyone who invites anyone to point a firearm at him wthout checking it HIMSELF is all but asking to get shot.
I've only ever had a firearm pointed at me once 'in anger'.That was in Bermuda in the 1960s - a US Marine on guard duty who'd not been back long from Vietnam, and who would probably go back on his next tour of duty. The gun may not have been loaded. I don't know now and I sure as hell didn't know then. I've been a bit nervous about looking down a gun barrel ever since.
And yes, I own firearms; am comfortable around them (when they are handled properly); and have handled them myself since about 1964. If I am around people who DON'T handle them properly, it is my responsibility to make sure they do. Paul has it. You presume all guns to be loaded until YOU know they aren't.
Cheers,
R.
BillBingham2
Registered User
Strange day in deed. I agree with Roger and Double Negative.
I bet the courts will agree that it's the person who pulled the trigger but I hope they have some sort of accidental homicide over there. I have not seen a lot of the Italian justice system but from what I have they seem pretty hard.
Very sad on so many levels.
B2 (;-<
I bet the courts will agree that it's the person who pulled the trigger but I hope they have some sort of accidental homicide over there. I have not seen a lot of the Italian justice system but from what I have they seem pretty hard.
Very sad on so many levels.
B2 (;-<
BillBingham2
Registered User
Basic gun rule #1.
Rule #2 is never point a gun at something you would not shoot.
B2 (;-<
Don't go to weddings in Sicily.
From reading some of the accounts, injuries from guns and fireworks are not uncommon.
If you suggest that someone pose with a gun, for a photograph that you are taking, bring your own props. I suggest squirt gun bought from a reliable vendor like Toys R Us.
From reading some of the accounts, injuries from guns and fireworks are not uncommon.
If you suggest that someone pose with a gun, for a photograph that you are taking, bring your own props. I suggest squirt gun bought from a reliable vendor like Toys R Us.
nikon_sam
Shooter of Film...
I've never had a gun pointed at me and would never want one...but I did have a rear tire shot out while drive home late one night...it pierced the rear tire and blew a chunk out of the aluminum wheel...the cop said it looked like a .44 or .45
Now, that wasn't too cool...maybe I did have a gun pointed at me...
Now, that wasn't too cool...maybe I did have a gun pointed at me...
Roger Hicks
Veteran
In the realms of Pointless Firearms Knowledge, a .44 magnum is far likelier than a .45.How do I know...?
Well, I was talking to a cop (a fellow motorcyclist) once about a Harley-Davidson sales drive in the UK. He had been assigned to test it. He said he felt a complete prat riding the thing, but that what really annoyed him was that they were claiming 'bulletproof tyres that couldn't be shot out'.
As well as being a motorcycle cop he was firearms qualified and had been taught that trying to shoot out a tyre with any normal handgun at any normal range was a waste of time. You need a VERY powerful pistol; or VERY close range; or a rifle.
Cheers,
R.
Fujitsu
Well-known
... Right...
It will be an interesting postscript to see how this plays out. As it was the photographer's idea for the photograph, and he is dead, it will be fairly easy to call this an unfortunate accident. I doubt the bride will spend time in jail over it. If the groom pulled the trigger for the fatal shot, maybe less so of a chance of going off without a token sentence.
But all of this is idle speculation based on a short newspaper account in a British paper over an event that happened in Sicily. About all one can really do is learn from it.
But all of this is idle speculation based on a short newspaper account in a British paper over an event that happened in Sicily. About all one can really do is learn from it.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Dear Ken,
Or, apparently, the ceiling. At Heathrow Airport you get (or got) armed cops and armed soldiers, both carrying submachine guns. One lot pointed their guns up; the other, down. I forget which was which. I asked one of them (a cop, I think) why they had different ports. He shrugged and said something to the effect that it was a question of training.
Cheers,
R.
My Father taught me to aim a loaded gun at the ground, safety ON, and uncocked. If it discharges into the air, it has to come down somewhere. Might be on someone. Fire at the ground, it can ricochet- but he felt more comfortable with that. He taught me this when I was 8, going out hunting with him.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
I prefer a .50 cal to the engine block. You can still drive around on a flat.
It's a bugger to get in your pocket, though. And half a dozen rounds are quite bulky and heavy.
You can still drive with a perforated cooling jacket (and that's all the damage it's likely to do). Just not very far. Probably far enough, though. You're not going to be all that worried about seizing the engine, are you?
Cheers,
R.