calling on cl experts...

[back alley]

i now have 2 cl's on hand and, of course, human nature kicks in and i start to compare them.

this one changes asa speeds easier, this one has a small paint chip and this one is better looking (no paint loss)...

2 things are a bit more significant - the meters are about a stop apart when measuring the same area.
one camera has been recalibated and the other has a mercury battery in it. (till my adapter arrives).
looking inside, the meter cells have different patterns and one has the cell sitting lower than the other.
the lower cell is interesting because having a spot meter when i lift the one camera a touch, the meters agree.

what do ya think?

joe

 

[Andrew Touchon]

i now have 2 cl's on hand and, of course, human nature kicks in and i start to compare them.

this one changes asa speeds easier, this one has a small paint chip and this one is better looking (no paint loss)...

2 things are a bit more significant - the meters are about a stop apart when measuring the same area.
one camera has been recalibated and the other has a mercury battery in it. (till my adapter arrives).
looking inside, the meter cells have different patterns and one has the cell sitting lower than the other.
the lower cell is interesting because having a spot meter when i lift the one camera a touch, the meters agree.

what do ya think?

joe

If you test both meters with the camera set at ASA 100 and 1/60 sec. is the needle in the middle of the notch?

 

[Gabriel M.A.]

I say keep the one that has been recalibrated...if the light meter is what you follow most of the time.

To be honest, at the end I don't know which camera is which that has what issue -- which is what you intended, perhaps.

What bothers you the most: inaccurate lightmeter, or lazy cell arm?

 

[back alley]

i did that test and they are in the notch. the murcury battery one is dead center; the other a touch lower in the notch.

 

[back alley]

I say keep the one that has been recalibrated...if the light meter is what you follow most of the time.

To be honest, at the end I don't know which camera is which that has what issue -- which is what you intended, perhaps.

What bothers you the most: inaccurate lightmeter, or lazy cell arm?

can't say i'm bothered really. very curious if the cell was changed by leica/minolta somewhere along the road.
most cameras disagree a bit but i wondered if it could be because the cell is actually lower.

joe

oh, i'm keeping them both.

 

[Andrew Touchon]

i did that test and they are in the notch. the murcury battery one is dead center; the other a touch lower in the notch.

Compare them while focusing on a blank white wall against another camera or light meter.

PS... I have owned a CL for over thirty years and have never had all these problems that you have experienced in the last two weeks. You must be the man with the golden touch.

 

[back alley]

andrew, you're the winner!
the 2 cl's, the zi and my little pilot all read the same against a white cardboard under a strong light.

joe

 

[back alley]

ok, thinking about it...why did you ask me to do that? and was this what you expected to happen and what lead you to that conclusion?

curious minds want to know!

 

[Andrew Touchon]

ok, thinking about it...why did you ask me to do that? and was this what you expected to happen and what lead you to that conclusion?

curious minds want to know!

By comparing them aganist a blank wall you eliminate any slight differences in the meter test circuits. Just go take some damn pictures and quit fondling the CLs. 😉

 

[back alley]

it's raining out...i have to fondle 😉

 

[Palaeoboy]

very curious if the cell was changed by leica/minolta somewhere along the road.

Yes they did. One has a pinkish background the other yellow. It wasnt changed during production though the new CdS cells were changed when they had some manufactured later for spares to cater for the demand.

 

[back alley]

do you know which is the newer cell?

in theory, that one might last longer than the other.

joe

 

[Palaeoboy]

The Yellow one is the newer one

 

[back alley]

now that's expertise!

thanks.

 

[Graham Line]

it's raining out...i have to fondle 😉

That's a good time for puddles, umbrellas, oil splotches, reflections . . . nice even, diffuse light. Stand under awnings, in doorways, bus shelters. Keep the camera fairly dry. If we didn't shoot in the wet in Oregon, we'd be out of luck half the time. 😛

 

[rool]

Yeah, some pictures!! Put neg. film in it and forget about the meter.

 

[Palaeoboy]

now that's expertise!

Actually I have photos of them both to illistrate but for the life of me I cant seem to find them. If they show up I will post them.