"Camera" Club, LOL, it figures ... :)

Too true. It gets worse when there's a self-appointed "artist" among the members. You know, the one who "teaches" at some art school and thus must be the expert on anything "art". The critiques usually don't hold sway, yet the rest of the members agree because the "expert" has spoken.
 
Yeah, I've seen clubs degenerate like that. It eventually comes down to camera/lens envy and money. Show up with a brilliant portfolio and a Brownie and you will be told how much better you could do with XX$$XX brand combo. I do not have a brilliant portfolio myself so they never said much to me at all.
 
I belong to and helped found a photography club 🙂 😀 😛 The best part is when new people join, every one of them always offers to teach a class on photoshop. Never fails 😀
 
While I understand the need for lessons in PS, I'm wondering who can afford PS to begin with.

Anyway, what those lessons usually boil down to is a) how to remove unwanted details (like poles, people, etc.), b) how to straighten horizons (even when my horizons are tilted on purpose people will tell me I should straighten them), or c) how to boost colour saturation and sharpness. And most of the time they've never heard of using levels or layers. Oh, and they tell you you never should do "this" and always should do "that", like I can't think for myself and experiment with settings. Total BS!

If you can afford PS, you should afford yourself the time to run the built-in lessons provided by Adobe themselves. But I guess that's too much work.
 
RML said:
While I understand the need for lessons in PS, I'm wondering who can afford PS to begin with.
There's plenty of amartuer photogs out there using PSE(elements) which is much cheaper but lacking some functionality but they pull off some really great stuff that would impress a seasoned PS user. Its really not about which software package you have but if you understand whats happening to the data. I guess this is like understanding the chemical reactions in the darkroom and how to use them rather than memorizing a workflow.
 
RML said:
Anyway, what those lessons usually boil down to is a) how to remove unwanted details (like poles, people, etc.),


egad this just reeks of PopPhoto. Has anybody seen the last issue where both the "fix-it" photos have extraordinarily significant (in terms of space or balance) elements utterly removed to help create better composition? In explanation of the selective removal, Debbie Grossman actually asked if it was too much for "photo purists."

If this really is what popular digital (or film-to-digital) imaging has boiled down to nowadays (and I am thoroughly sure that it is), whose address can we send the lynching party to?
 
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