punkromance
Poor art student
R3a 40/1.4 + standard UV filter.
What's happening??
Actually I noticed this with my D80 50/1.8
As I didn't have to pay for film (I have no money) I was able to try it with and without the filter and had the same problem.
Can anyone enlighten me? Will I just have to shoot sans filter from now on?
Chris101
summicronia
It's reflections from the filter or internal parts of the lens for sure. I sometimes see this when I shoot the moon, a dimmer, upside down moon in the opposite quadrant of the photo.
It's kinda cool here though ...
It's kinda cool here though ...
Spyderman
Well-known
You have just discovered a gate to a parallel space ! Remember, the truth is out there 
punkromance
Poor art student
It kind of reminded me of the roads in Back to the Future when I first saw it.
And yeah it's kind of interesting in that photo, but in the long run it's a complete joke. Here's three other photos from the same roll, all with the same effects.
Oh, and ignore the photos. It was a crap roll.
It looks like I'm not going to be able to shoot anything featuring a bright light anymore, which sucks as most my stuff is in low light.
And yeah it's kind of interesting in that photo, but in the long run it's a complete joke. Here's three other photos from the same roll, all with the same effects.
Oh, and ignore the photos. It was a crap roll.
It looks like I'm not going to be able to shoot anything featuring a bright light anymore, which sucks as most my stuff is in low light.
ClaremontPhoto
Jon Claremont
I like it.
Chris101
summicronia
Have you tried taking off your UV filter? Have you tried a multicoated filter? Good glass coatings will reduce reflections dramatically!
sienarot
Well-known
My guess is the UV filter. Just another reason why I won't use them.
40oz
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ditch the filter.
kevin m
Veteran
MRC filters, only. Even then, ditch it unless you need it.
Ronald_H
Don't call me Ron
In 10 years of photography I never, ever found use for an UV filter. Ditch it.
Chuck Albertson
Well-known
Detailed examination of the original post will reveal that he tried the shot with and without a filter, and got the same result. So the "dump the filter" advice doesn't help much. Get a better lens if you intend to shoot a lot of available-light stuff with light sources in the frame.
ZeissFan
Veteran
I read the original post again. I think the shot displayed is the film camera with the UV filter.
The original post then goes on to say that it occurs with his digital cameras with or without a filter. That's a separate issue in which the protective cover on the sensor is so highly polished and reflective that it reflects the image onto the rear lens surface, which then reflects it back onto the sensor. I've read about this happening with other cameras in certain situations.
With the film camera, it's probably the filter.
The original post then goes on to say that it occurs with his digital cameras with or without a filter. That's a separate issue in which the protective cover on the sensor is so highly polished and reflective that it reflects the image onto the rear lens surface, which then reflects it back onto the sensor. I've read about this happening with other cameras in certain situations.
With the film camera, it's probably the filter.
punkromance
Poor art student
Thanks for all your help. I'm not using the UV filter for any photographic reason. It's simply to protect my lens.
Zeissfan's right, the camera's a relatively new acquisition for me and I haven't put that many films through it. I'm yet to try it without the filter and then I'll have to wait until I have money to get it developed so I probably won't find out if it was the filter or not for a while.
I was using the Nokton 40/1.4 MC, has anyone else had this problem?
Zeissfan's right, the camera's a relatively new acquisition for me and I haven't put that many films through it. I'm yet to try it without the filter and then I'll have to wait until I have money to get it developed so I probably won't find out if it was the filter or not for a while.
I was using the Nokton 40/1.4 MC, has anyone else had this problem?
Prosaic
Well-known
Whats wrong with the 40/1.4 Nokton?
rogerchristian
Established
You can get reflection from the air-glass surfaces of any/all of the lens internal surfaces, especially noticeable when shooting in high-contrast situations like lights against dark sky.
This happens in movies a lot, used for visual effect with multiple images of the sun, for example.
There are digital UV filters on the market, big $$, which are vastly better in terms of surface reflections and may reduce any effect like this from the filter, but then you still have to deal with the lens internal reflections.
Go to a local reputable camera store and ask to see a non-digital UV and a digital UV side by side, Helios, B+W, Promaster (these are VERY good, BTW), and Hoya are good choices, they may have any or all of these depending on how big the store is. The difference in transmission and reduced reflections from the surface of the filter is dramatic.
This happens in movies a lot, used for visual effect with multiple images of the sun, for example.
There are digital UV filters on the market, big $$, which are vastly better in terms of surface reflections and may reduce any effect like this from the filter, but then you still have to deal with the lens internal reflections.
Go to a local reputable camera store and ask to see a non-digital UV and a digital UV side by side, Helios, B+W, Promaster (these are VERY good, BTW), and Hoya are good choices, they may have any or all of these depending on how big the store is. The difference in transmission and reduced reflections from the surface of the filter is dramatic.
mh2000
Well-known
ya know all the threads about whether you should us UV filters for lens protection... and all the people who say that you shouldn't... well, here is the proof.
I argued with a friend of mine not to use a filter, but someone had once told him to always use one... then, he had a major shoot and got similar ghosts ruining half his best shots... he ditched his filters fast after that!
I argued with a friend of mine not to use a filter, but someone had once told him to always use one... then, he had a major shoot and got similar ghosts ruining half his best shots... he ditched his filters fast after that!
blw
Well-known
Who cares about filters? I'm still trying to figure out what the hell a punkromance is.
Did Blink182 create this nonsense?
Did Blink182 create this nonsense?
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
Emm...look at the photo at the beginning of the thread.