Can you identify a "Sonnar Look"?

ferider said:
I have only used one Tessar, Stewart, on a Rollei 35. It was sharp corner
to corner but limited in speed (f3.5). So I'm not sure.

Roland.
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Hi Roland, I have a f3.5 on a Rolleiflex that I always think has the same tendencies as the sonnars.. I struggle with the fingerprint thing, I get too easily distracted by the image, so I tend not to trust my own judgments sometimes
 
Hi Stewart,

I have several lenses that I feel behave like Sonnars, but they don't.
For example the Canon 50/1.2 comes very very close. If you show
me a Canon 50/1.2 or a Nikkor 50/1.4 picture at f1.4, I will
likely not be able to distinguish them.

I have seen Rolleiflex Tessar pictures, and can not distinguish them
from my Hassi 80 Planar at the same f stop, typically.

Plus we always look at small web pictures. Really loose a lot of detail.

In the end it's not so important really ...

Roland.
 
So far my limited experience with a sonnar lens has given me a mixed feeling. The only one I have right now is attached to the Rollei 35 S.

I spent two rolls on it and the results doesn't knock me off my socks. Thinking back, I could have relied too much on the probably off meter. I will run the next roll using the Sunny-16 rule.
 
shadowfox said:
So far my limited experience with a sonnar lens has given me a mixed feeling. The only one I have right now is attached to the Rollei 35 S.

I spent two rolls on it and the results doesn't knock me off my socks. Thinking back, I could have relied too much on the probably off meter. I will run the next roll using the Sunny-16 rule.
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You are spoiled by your Zuikos :D

Roland.
 
Also, the 35S Sonnar is IMHO, the less "sonnarish" of all Sonnars, giving a signature far closer to Planars. By the way, I don`t think Raid's pictures came out of a Sonnar. Looks like a double Gauss lens to me
 
ferider said:
You are spoiled by your Zuikos :D

Roland.
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Roland, ain't that the truth :p

On the other hand, my experience with the Russian lenses, a Helios which is based on the Planar (??) is excellent.

I'm waiting for a Jupiter 8 (a Russian Sonnar). So I'm anxious to give it a try.
 
i see the coma like oof highlights in the second airplane shot as very similar / identic to the oof highlights thtough the blind holes in the first shot(s).
The "smooth" background is characteristic to most not-very-new lens designs at 2.8-ish apertures.
The problem is also from the low shutter speeds. You can't say much about sharpness when you have a tiny motion blur.

A funny "sonnar fingerprint" comes from the star-shaped diaphragm around f/4-f/5.6, but for that you need strong oof highlights and/or ghosting.
 
Still, the Luxon gives a very pleasing rendition of the face. I am happy with its performance as a special applications lens.

Raid
 
thafred said:
@ NB23...pffft ..that´s easy, clearly shot with a Lux 35 pre Asph serial no. 38524111...everyone can see that!


hahahahahahahaha....sorry, i just had to be a smarta$$ :rolleyes:
I often can´t even make out if I shot with the 28 or 40 :-D


@ Raid, didn´t the myriards of lens test´s show that character and quality can only be discerned if compared directly against each other? I mean, the 40ies were sooo close toghether I´ll bet my legs and arms that if you see only one shot in front of you it´s completely guess work what lens it was shot with. So, just do as I do and Tag the shot´s with the lens you like the pictures to be made :-D ... can´t be of any more help here..sorry

oh...and everybody go check NB23´s Work out!!! totaly wicked awesome street style mate!! love it
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Hey, you got me blushing! Thanks ;)
 
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