Canonist
Member
Hello,
I would firstly like to introduce myself. My name is Norbert, I live in Germany and I am 50 years old. After many years with the old Canon F1, I photographed a few years with the Leica M6 and last only digitally with the EOS 5D. Now I have recently a Canon P with 50/1.8 and 100/2.0 bought, because I agree with the digital black-and-white photographs was not entirely satisfied and I also was a rangefinder camera missing.
Now I want to buy a 35/1.8, or a 35/2.0 and I am not sure which of them I should take.
From a nearly 50-year-old lens I do not necessarily expect the imaging performance of modern lenses, but rather a certain "melting" (I do not know exactly how I should express).
What I also want is this: If the Canon 35/2.0 the older Summicron is similar, but very much better in resolution and contrast than the Canon 35/1.8, it would be for me the first choice.
If that 35/1.8 is only slightly more badly, than that 35/2.0, but wide open has a particularly beautiful Bokeh, it would be still better vor me.
Perhaps someone can help me this problem to solve?
Please excuse my bad English.
Best Regards
Norbert
Here is a Picture from the first film with my new old Canon P:
I would firstly like to introduce myself. My name is Norbert, I live in Germany and I am 50 years old. After many years with the old Canon F1, I photographed a few years with the Leica M6 and last only digitally with the EOS 5D. Now I have recently a Canon P with 50/1.8 and 100/2.0 bought, because I agree with the digital black-and-white photographs was not entirely satisfied and I also was a rangefinder camera missing.
Now I want to buy a 35/1.8, or a 35/2.0 and I am not sure which of them I should take.
From a nearly 50-year-old lens I do not necessarily expect the imaging performance of modern lenses, but rather a certain "melting" (I do not know exactly how I should express).
What I also want is this: If the Canon 35/2.0 the older Summicron is similar, but very much better in resolution and contrast than the Canon 35/1.8, it would be for me the first choice.
If that 35/1.8 is only slightly more badly, than that 35/2.0, but wide open has a particularly beautiful Bokeh, it would be still better vor me.
Perhaps someone can help me this problem to solve?
Please excuse my bad English.
Best Regards
Norbert
Here is a Picture from the first film with my new old Canon P:
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squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
I think the 1.8 is a wonderful lens. The 2 is supposed to be a little bit sharper and a little bit more contrasty, but otherwise similar--that's hearsay, though. I don't have it, and don't long for it, having the 1.8.
here are a couple shot on Tri-X. It works great on the R-D1 too.
here are a couple shot on Tri-X. It works great on the R-D1 too.
rlouzan
Well-known
payasam
a.k.a. Mukul Dube
Either should meet your needs: although, as mabelsound says, the f/2 is held to be marginally better.
raid
Dad Photographer
Hallo Norbert,
You are on the right track with your questions.
"If that 35/1.8 is only slightly more badly, than that 35/2.0, but wide open has a particularly beautiful Bokeh, it would be still better vor me."
Roland has the 1.8 and had the 2.0 Canon 35mm lenses. He disliked the bokeh of the 35/2.0 and he prefers the 35/1.8. I have the 35/1.8, and I like it very much. I also like the Summicron 35/2 version 1.
Your English is fine. In fact, it is far better than most peoples' German here!
(Sie sind wilkommen hier!)
You are on the right track with your questions.
"If that 35/1.8 is only slightly more badly, than that 35/2.0, but wide open has a particularly beautiful Bokeh, it would be still better vor me."
Roland has the 1.8 and had the 2.0 Canon 35mm lenses. He disliked the bokeh of the 35/2.0 and he prefers the 35/1.8. I have the 35/1.8, and I like it very much. I also like the Summicron 35/2 version 1.
Your English is fine. In fact, it is far better than most peoples' German here!
(Sie sind wilkommen hier!)
ferider
Veteran
Hallo Norbert,
Raid summarized it quite well. The 35/2 is a just little sharper but the OOF behavior of my sample bothered me (I attach a photo I have shown before).
The 35/1.8 flares a little wide open (lower contrast in the dark picture areas), but otherwise is quite sharp and has nice bokeh. Plus I find it better built, it has more metal.
They are both good lenses. At f5.6 and up certainly both good competitors with the later, pre-asph 35/2 Summicron.
Gruss,
Roland.
PS: 35/2 bokeh:
Raid summarized it quite well. The 35/2 is a just little sharper but the OOF behavior of my sample bothered me (I attach a photo I have shown before).
The 35/1.8 flares a little wide open (lower contrast in the dark picture areas), but otherwise is quite sharp and has nice bokeh. Plus I find it better built, it has more metal.
They are both good lenses. At f5.6 and up certainly both good competitors with the later, pre-asph 35/2 Summicron.
Gruss,
Roland.
PS: 35/2 bokeh:
Canonist
Member
Thank you to all for the answers, links and the welcome.
I think the 35/1.8 is the right thing for me.
Best Regards
Norbert
I think the 35/1.8 is the right thing for me.
Best Regards
Norbert
David Murphy
Veteran
Norbert,
What lens and film type did you use on the P for the river scene? I really like that shot.
What lens and film type did you use on the P for the river scene? I really like that shot.
Bingley
Veteran
Welcome to the forum, Norbert! I've observed from threads here that most members who use the 35/1.8 like it and think it a sweet lens, but opinions are more divided on the 35/2 (some like its sharpness, others dislike its bokeh). Raid's and Roland's posts above support this. Once you find your 35/1.8, please post some photos taken w/ it over at the Canon RF Lens group on flickr, as well as here.
Roland -- I went looking earlier today for your "First Impressions of Canon P" thread, which had some nice shots taken w/ the 35/1.8, as well as the shot above w/ the 35/2. Couldn't find it. Has it vanished into cyberspace?
Roland -- I went looking earlier today for your "First Impressions of Canon P" thread, which had some nice shots taken w/ the 35/1.8, as well as the shot above w/ the 35/2. Couldn't find it.
Has it vanished into cyberspace?
ferider
Veteran
Roland -- I went looking earlier today for your "First Impressions of Canon P" thread, which had some nice shots taken w/ the 35/1.8, as well as the shot above w/ the 35/2. Couldn't find it.
Hi Steve,
not sure where the thread went .. I might have deleted it myself a while back.
In any case, here are the pics I showed back then (most taken with the 35/1.8):
http://ferider.smugmug.com/gallery/3449038_EVjuU
In the mean-time, with my 35/1.5 experience, I am guessing that the flare that you see in those
pictures might be caused by very minor haze as well ....
Cheers,
Roland.
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raid
Dad Photographer
Roland,
I also bought a Canon 35mm/1.5 from Chris.
Once I get the lens, I will start exploring its capabilities [again].
I also bought a Canon 35mm/1.5 from Chris.
Once I get the lens, I will start exploring its capabilities [again].
raid
Dad Photographer
Raid's and Roland's posts above support this. Once you find your 35/1.8, please post some photos taken w/ it over at the Canon RF Lens group on flickr, as well as here.
Steve,
I have not posted any pics here yet.
raid
Dad Photographer
Images taken with the Canon 35mm/1.8 [in Lisboa, Portugal]:
I had the lens cleaned by Eddy Smolov after the trip to Portugal. I find the flare charming, but some may find it horrible looking.
I had the lens cleaned by Eddy Smolov after the trip to Portugal. I find the flare charming, but some may find it horrible looking.
Bingley
Veteran
Raid -- I know, but you did post a response to Norbert's OP, and that was what I was referring to.
Looking forward to seeing some shots from your 35/1.5, and I always enjoy seeing your Lisbon photos taken w/ the 35/1.8!
raid
Dad Photographer
Thank you, Steve.
I am looking forward to using the Canon 35/1.5 when I get it.
I haven't sent payment yet. Chris is a nice guy.
Having the 35/1.5 may let me sell one of my other 35mm lenses.
Somehow, I like them all.
The Summicron 35/2 first version is super smooth, while the Canon 35mm/2.8 is tiny and tack sharp. The 35/1.8 is also small and overall very useful to have for trips.
Maybe I will sell my 35mm/1.8.
I am looking forward to using the Canon 35/1.5 when I get it.
I haven't sent payment yet. Chris is a nice guy.
Having the 35/1.5 may let me sell one of my other 35mm lenses.
Somehow, I like them all.
The Summicron 35/2 first version is super smooth, while the Canon 35mm/2.8 is tiny and tack sharp. The 35/1.8 is also small and overall very useful to have for trips.
Maybe I will sell my 35mm/1.8.
Bingley
Veteran
Please, Raid, don't do this to my GAS!!!
Sonnar2
Well-known
The 35/1.8 shows more ghost pictures with strong lights (as shown in Raid's pics) and less contrast wide open, but it clears up nicely when stopped down. The 35/2 is better in contrast wide open (sharpness is the same) and, in compensation why it' so pushed, the bokeh is harsher.
At f/5.6 or f/8 both are excellent and no difference in results. After all, both designs are very similar. It's highly a matter of taste (with the appearance as well). Best: have both...
Ask any seller for hazing in both lenses. The 35/1.8 is prone to haze. The 35/2 is lesser prone to spider-web type fungus, which isn't easy to detect because the glass is so small! My 35/1.8 shows a slight haze (I use it nevertheless) whereas the very slight fungus of my 35/2 could luckily be removed without damage.
At f/5.6 or f/8 both are excellent and no difference in results. After all, both designs are very similar. It's highly a matter of taste (with the appearance as well). Best: have both...
Ask any seller for hazing in both lenses. The 35/1.8 is prone to haze. The 35/2 is lesser prone to spider-web type fungus, which isn't easy to detect because the glass is so small! My 35/1.8 shows a slight haze (I use it nevertheless) whereas the very slight fungus of my 35/2 could luckily be removed without damage.
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Canonist
Member
Hello David,
I used the 50/1.8 and a Kodak BW400CN, exposed with ISO 100 for finer grain. My film-scanner is a Minolta Dimage Scan Elite 5400 and I like that shot too.
Canonist
Member
Once you find your 35/1.8, please post some photos taken w/ it over at the Canon RF Lens group on flickr, as well as here.
Hello Bingley,
I just registered myself with the username "canonist1958" at the Canon RF Lens group on flickr and I will post some Pics if I got a 35/1.8 lens.
Canonist
Member
Hello Sonnar2,
I thank you and all here for the advice. It is nice to be here and I hope, my English will get better on this way.
I thank you and all here for the advice. It is nice to be here and I hope, my English will get better on this way.