johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/9/5/17822556/canon-eos-r-camera-hands-on-preview-photos
Enjoy the debate between the Nikon and Canon fans, get yr popcorn out
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Enjoy the debate between the Nikon and Canon fans, get yr popcorn out
kshapero
South Florida Man
We thought mirrorless would solve the "bulky" problem. Forget that. Pany is up next.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Apparently the manufacturers are afraid buyers of expensive kit don't want to look like amateurs, so bulky cameras for seriousness are in order...
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
That thing looks dated already.
Highway 61
Revisited
As ugly as the Nikon, game over.
Peter Jennings
Well-known
Quoting the writer of the article:
“feels as reassuringly chunky in your hand as you’d hope” - with a lens as bulky as that, I guess you’d need a body that feels “chunky”
“Canon has worked hard to rethink what a digital camera should be when it’s no longer bound by the constraints of a flipping mirror box” - from the looks of it, they think it should be as close to a DSLR as possible
“feels as reassuringly chunky in your hand as you’d hope” - with a lens as bulky as that, I guess you’d need a body that feels “chunky”
“Canon has worked hard to rethink what a digital camera should be when it’s no longer bound by the constraints of a flipping mirror box” - from the looks of it, they think it should be as close to a DSLR as possible
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
Enjoy the debate between the Nikon and Canon fans, get yr popcorn out
Once Nikon was pooped out its forum came in no time. But no for Canon, yet.
POTN here I come again.
willie_901
Veteran
Horror of horrors! This Canon has no IBIS.
Changing the subject: What is it with these giant lenses?
Changing the subject: What is it with these giant lenses?
Luke_Miller
Established
Maximum aperture, size of the image circle, focal length, and autofocus motors drive lens size. So no matter how small you make the body - a 50mm and up full frame sensor lens for it stays the same size as the DSLR version. There can be a reduction in size for wides since the shorter register distance eliminates the need for a retro-focus design.
Contarama
Well-known
That is probably only because we thought it might be the new digital F. Boy was I disappointed. Keep the flame burning Ko I am sure the bartender will get around to the Canon section sometime soon.
Scapevision
Well-known
Scapevision
Well-known
more like FD L had sex with EOS L
Dan
Let's Sway
Corran
Well-known
Except the issue of light hitting the sensor at oblique angles makes non-retrofocus designs have their own issues, so large retrofocus wides are still a necessity.
Until we have curved sensors and therefore the ability to use simpler, smaller lenses, I don't really care about any of these mirrorless cameras. It's just a slightly smaller camera body with huge lenses, an annoying computer monitor shoved in my eyeball, and no meaningful improvements in handling or usage.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
I'm as Canon EOS SLR and DSLR user see nothing outdated but just keeping it in same style. Same layout, same menus. Way better for real photography, instead of making another Sigma.
I didn't know Nikon is this bad and needs two cards. I had three Canon DSLRs over ten years, none has troubles with cards. In fact very first card still works. Something like 200K images taken, no idea why DSLR needs two cards.
IBIS, not sure either. I photograph people with wide to normal lenses and with shutter speeds to eliminate motion blur.
I didn't know Nikon is this bad and needs two cards. I had three Canon DSLRs over ten years, none has troubles with cards. In fact very first card still works. Something like 200K images taken, no idea why DSLR needs two cards.
IBIS, not sure either. I photograph people with wide to normal lenses and with shutter speeds to eliminate motion blur.
Cascadilla
Well-known
I've never had a card failure either, but if I were shooting weddings I would demand a 2 card camera just to limit the number of potential things that might go wrong when a reshoot just can't happen.
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
Both Canon and Nikon have purposefully underdeveloped their mirror-less FF cameras to keep the punters craving more juicer and better equipped models, which they will slowly release for temptation and latest and the greatest upgrading, while draining the consumer's bank account funds.
These would not be bad cameras aimed at amateurs priced around 1700 dollars CDN, complete with a crappy zoom kit lens in the Sony style.
Corran
Well-known
Obviously you don't shoot huge weddings for thousands of dollars. Two card, simultaneous backup is deriguour in the business because **** happens and you have to deliver. As well as wifi backup to laptop sometimes as well.
I once dropped a 32GB, name-brand SD card about a foot onto my desk, and it instantly did not work anymore. The issue has nothing to do with the camera and everything to do with the media. SD cards (compared to CF) are more prone to damage in my experience.
waterlenz
Established
I suggest looking at the MTFs. Some of the new lenses blow away previous generations. The RF 50/1.2 as an example. The Z 50/1.8 as well.
