Canon announces full-frame mirrorless camera as well

[johannielscom]

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/9/5/17822556/canon-eos-r-camera-hands-on-preview-photos

Enjoy the debate between the Nikon and Canon fans, get yr popcorn out
😛

 

[kshapero]

We thought mirrorless would solve the "bulky" problem. Forget that. Pany is up next.

 

[johannielscom]

Apparently the manufacturers are afraid buyers of expensive kit don't want to look like amateurs, so bulky cameras for seriousness are in order...

 

[xayraa33]

That thing looks dated already.

 

[Highway 61]

As ugly as the Nikon, game over.

 

[Peter Jennings]

Quoting the writer of the article:
“feels as reassuringly chunky in your hand as you’d hope” - with a lens as bulky as that, I guess you’d need a body that feels “chunky”
“Canon has worked hard to rethink what a digital camera should be when it’s no longer bound by the constraints of a flipping mirror box” - from the looks of it, they think it should be as close to a DSLR as possible

 

[Ko.Fe.]

Enjoy the debate between the Nikon and Canon fans, get yr popcorn out
😛

Once Nikon was pooped out its forum came in no time. But no for Canon, yet.
POTN here I come again.

 

[willie_901]

Horror of horrors! This Canon has no IBIS.

Changing the subject: What is it with these giant lenses?

 

[Luke_Miller]

Maximum aperture, size of the image circle, focal length, and autofocus motors drive lens size. So no matter how small you make the body - a 50mm and up full frame sensor lens for it stays the same size as the DSLR version. There can be a reduction in size for wides since the shorter register distance eliminates the need for a retro-focus design.

 

[Contarama]

Once Nikon was pooped out its forum came in no time. But no for Canon, yet.
POTN here I come again.

That is probably only because we thought it might be the new digital F. Boy was I disappointed. Keep the flame burning Ko I am sure the bartender will get around to the Canon section sometime soon.

 

[Scapevision]

That thing looks dated already.

FD 70-80s 🙂

 

[Scapevision]

more like FD L had sex with EOS L

 

[Dan]

That thing looks dated already.

Good eye! 😎

 

[Corran]

There can be a reduction in size for wides since the shorter register distance eliminates the need for a retro-focus design.

Except the issue of light hitting the sensor at oblique angles makes non-retrofocus designs have their own issues, so large retrofocus wides are still a necessity.

Until we have curved sensors and therefore the ability to use simpler, smaller lenses, I don't really care about any of these mirrorless cameras. It's just a slightly smaller camera body with huge lenses, an annoying computer monitor shoved in my eyeball, and no meaningful improvements in handling or usage.

 

[Ko.Fe.]

I'm as Canon EOS SLR and DSLR user see nothing outdated but just keeping it in same style. Same layout, same menus. Way better for real photography, instead of making another Sigma.
I didn't know Nikon is this bad and needs two cards. I had three Canon DSLRs over ten years, none has troubles with cards. In fact very first card still works. Something like 200K images taken, no idea why DSLR needs two cards.
IBIS, not sure either. I photograph people with wide to normal lenses and with shutter speeds to eliminate motion blur.

 

[Cascadilla]

I'm as Canon EOS SLR and DSLR user see nothing outdated but just keeping it in same style. Same layout, same menus. Way better for real photography, instead of making another Sigma.
I didn't know Nikon is this bad and needs two cards. I had three Canon DSLRs over ten years, none has troubles with cards. In fact very first card still works. Something like 200K images taken, no idea why DSLR needs two cards.
IBIS, not sure either. I photograph people with wide to normal lenses and with shutter speeds to eliminate motion blur.

I've never had a card failure either, but if I were shooting weddings I would demand a 2 card camera just to limit the number of potential things that might go wrong when a reshoot just can't happen.

 

[xayraa33]

I've never had a card failure either, but if I were shooting weddings I would demand a 2 card camera just to limit the number of potential things that might go wrong when a reshoot just can't happen.

Both Canon and Nikon have purposefully underdeveloped their mirror-less FF cameras to keep the punters craving more juicer and better equipped models, which they will slowly release for temptation and latest and the greatest upgrading, while draining the consumer's bank account funds.

These would not be bad cameras aimed at amateurs priced around 1700 dollars CDN, complete with a crappy zoom kit lens in the Sony style.

 

[Corran]

no idea why DSLR needs two cards.

Obviously you don't shoot huge weddings for thousands of dollars. Two card, simultaneous backup is deriguour in the business because **** happens and you have to deliver. As well as wifi backup to laptop sometimes as well.

I once dropped a 32GB, name-brand SD card about a foot onto my desk, and it instantly did not work anymore. The issue has nothing to do with the camera and everything to do with the media. SD cards (compared to CF) are more prone to damage in my experience.

 

[waterlenz]

I suggest looking at the MTFs. Some of the new lenses blow away previous generations. The RF 50/1.2 as an example. The Z 50/1.8 as well.

 

[p.giannakis]

This came to mind....