rondo
Established
The really good news about the Canon offerings: Hopefully Ricoh will have to lower the GRD3 price sooner than planned.
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
The really good news about the Canon offerings: Hopefully Ricoh will have to lower the GRD3 price sooner than planned.
Tony Rose has the GRD III priced @ $699 USD - not bad, but it would be nicer if it was @ $500 USD depending on what Canon's offerings can do image quality wise that is.
I, basically, know what I'm getting with the GRD III (compared to the GRD II) - the ergonomics won't change that much - but I don't know if the S90 will feel the same in my hand as the GRD II does
Cheers,
Dave
Frankie
Speaking Frankly
Congrats to Canon's new G11...GII.
I hate arms length photography :bang:...us aging yuppies don't have long enough arms.
Canon's optical viewfinder, while not the greatest on my G7, serves far better. I hope the G11 viewfinder is better.
The new 100% coverage articulated LCD with live view is the most interesting feature...useful as a viewfinder in low-level and side shots.
28-140mm equivalent zoom is my personal favorite range...
A good 10Mp CCD is enough...so says Leica M8.
I couldn't care less what size the CCD is, so long I can get clean pictures at ISO 100~400 range...Plus-X to Tri-X territory.
The G7 was a perfect travel camera. For my next vacation, if no ZMd in the horizon, I will simply buy one and go.
I hate arms length photography :bang:...us aging yuppies don't have long enough arms.
Canon's optical viewfinder, while not the greatest on my G7, serves far better. I hope the G11 viewfinder is better.
The new 100% coverage articulated LCD with live view is the most interesting feature...useful as a viewfinder in low-level and side shots.
28-140mm equivalent zoom is my personal favorite range...
A good 10Mp CCD is enough...so says Leica M8.
I couldn't care less what size the CCD is, so long I can get clean pictures at ISO 100~400 range...Plus-X to Tri-X territory.
The G7 was a perfect travel camera. For my next vacation, if no ZMd in the horizon, I will simply buy one and go.
rondo
Established
... I don't know if the S90 will feel the same in my hand as the GRD II does
Cheers,
Dave
not that well built. i doubt it will feel like a GRD, see the video here:
http://www.whatdigitalcamera.com/news/391702/canon-s90-announced.html
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
not that well built. i doubt it will feel like a GRD, see the video here:
http://www.whatdigitalcamera.com/news/391702/canon-s90-announced.html
Thanks for that Rondo.
The S90 does look like an LX-3 "clone" per se
That said, if it's about as big (less the front lens bulk) then it may not be as pocketable as I thought. In the Canon rep's hands it looks a lot bigger than the GRD.
Interesting - Ricoh may have that market sewn up perhaps.
Cheers,
Dave
binky
Established
Glad I held off getting a G10. The 10mp sensor should be interesting indeed...
MartinP
Veteran
According to the Canon guy on the video linked above, by Rondo, the new point-and-shoot has ten million megapixels . . . interesting.

johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
On the S90 Lens Control Ring:
"Additional settings can be assigned, such as ISO (in 1/3 stop increments), shutter, aperture, focus and exposure compensation - giving photographers a satisfyingly tactile experience..."
That ring can ge used as an aperture ring! When putting the camera in aperture priority mode it might almost behave like a real camera.
Now, if it only had an EVF with the option to omit all info from it except shutter speed, we'd have a winner...:bang:
"Additional settings can be assigned, such as ISO (in 1/3 stop increments), shutter, aperture, focus and exposure compensation - giving photographers a satisfyingly tactile experience..."
That ring can ge used as an aperture ring! When putting the camera in aperture priority mode it might almost behave like a real camera.
Now, if it only had an EVF with the option to omit all info from it except shutter speed, we'd have a winner...:bang:
chris91387
Well-known
i've had my G10 for 2 weeks and i find it cumbersome and slow to work with (unless in auto mode). it takes nice pictures but to get it to do what i envision just takes me too long. it'll be fine for family snapshots but for anything else i'd rather use my film camera or nikon dslr.
maybe i'll get faster at it but for now it's just not very intuitive for me.
maybe the g11 is easier to use?
- chris
maybe i'll get faster at it but for now it's just not very intuitive for me.
maybe the g11 is easier to use?
- chris
Florian1234
it's just hide and seek
Another point on the advantages list: The G10 gets lower prices on the bay. 
Honestly, if the viewfinder would not suck that much and the sensor would be larger, I already had bought a G10 (shutter lag may be another issue to deal with).
Honestly, if the viewfinder would not suck that much and the sensor would be larger, I already had bought a G10 (shutter lag may be another issue to deal with).
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ZeissFan
Veteran
I'm waiting for the G20 -- the one that doesn't have a postage stamp for a sensor.
Dave Wilkinson
Veteran
Canon drops the gauntlet, New G11 and S90
Yawn!......Yawn!......'life gets tedious....don't it'
Yawn!......Yawn!......'life gets tedious....don't it'
literiter
Well-known
Canon drops the gauntlet, New G11 and S90
Yawn!......Yawn!......'life gets tedious....don't it'![]()
Yes...on and on........on and on.......on and on.......etc. ad infinitum.
Very predictable next year they'll be blowing the doors off with the G12 or the G15 or the S92 etc. I think I'll stay with my obsolete film crap for another 20 years.
Darkhorse
pointed and shot
Let's not get into that again.
chikarin
Member
I don't think EVF is an issue for such camera. for the E-P1 you want EVF since you want to manual focus with legacy lens, but if you are only using auto focus the LCD is more than enough.
seeing how my relative old LX2 even has bright LCD mode for bright days, I assume a much newer camera like this would have it for sure.
seeing how my relative old LX2 even has bright LCD mode for bright days, I assume a much newer camera like this would have it for sure.
Thardy
Veteran
Canon drops the gauntlet, New G11 and S90
Yawn!......Yawn!......'life gets tedious....don't it'![]()
Dropped the ball more like it. They would have had a winner if they put a decent sized sensor in it. And we all discounted the EP-1. Shame on us.
dazedgonebye
Veteran
The S90 is the more interesting of the two.
back alley
IMAGES
you heard it here first...
nikon will release a m43 camera within the next 12 months!
nikon will release a m43 camera within the next 12 months!
Thardy
Veteran
you heard it here first...
nikon will release a m43 camera within the next 12 months!
That would be great. I hope it has some sort of viewfinder though. it's too hard using the rear screen in bright light.
Dan States
Established
Ya know.. people put too much emphasis on the external finder - I personally have one for the GRD II but, really, rarely use it.
Why?
Because, due to the ubiquity of the digital P&S camera; almost no one pays attention when you hold a camera at arms length anymore. People pay far more attention to you when you hold a camera (ANY CAMERA) up to your face and look through a viewfinder.
So for street shooting, the external finder is, imho, a non-issue.
Cheers,
Dave
Amen brother. Pushing a camera up to your face and going all squinty is hardly subtle. The future is here....
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