Canon Eos 1V or Nikon F6 or.. for weddings?

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So i am considering shooting analog on some weddings and while i like to use my MM/ M6ttl / M5 I wonder if an autofocus SLR would be smart for the speedy moments and quick close up snaps.

I have a 5D with some af lenses and I have some Nikon AF/MF lenses.
I tried my Eos 30 /Elan7 and Nikon F75 and they are nice and small but their lowlight AF is not great and/or they need a light beam to focus which is not handy during weddings.

Can i get some help from you guys in comparing the Eos 1v with Nikon F6 regarding weddingtype assignments. Which of the two is better in lowlight?

Should I consider another camera too? Eos 3 seems nice but has a LOUD shuttter it seems. Maybe f100?

Any feedback really appreciated! Please start with Canon/Nikon since i already have some lenses.
 
Are you planning color or B&W? Negative, Slide?

From personal experience, the F6 is lighter than the 1V. It might have better metering for chrome film, too...the other emulsions, it won't matter...they're both more-than-good enough.

Here's a biggie...the F6 can be much quieter, if you don't need high frame rates. It's just about as quiet as an M6. It's a pretty awesome film machine.

Best, David.
 
With focus eye control it is as speedy as it could get. But I used it with L-series lenses as well.
 
To your Q the F6 and 1V are so in the same world that you can just pick the one you have glass for. There isn't a clear advantage in either case IMO. I'd use an F6 simply because I already shoot Nikon. In reality I shoot an F100 because it's more than good enough.

As a film-shooting wedding photographer I'd say shoot what you already like to shoot in a way that you like to shoot it. If you make great images with your M cameras you should just try and do that. I know lots of wedding peers that have integrated analog or digital Ms into their wedding day. If I know I need AF I probably also need a few other things that just end up leading me to my D750, but there aren't actually that many moments in the day that are like that.

I currently shoot with a 2.8 Rolleiflex, a Pentax 645z, a D750, and an RX1RII. All of these get used at weddings at different times. I could shoot an F100, but I always felt like I was just burning money and not really doing anything substantially different from my D750.
 
The F6 is compatible with Nikon's Creative Lighting System (CLS). If you're using flash that might be worth considering.
 
I have a couple of 1vs and they are very nice and much cheaper than F6, depends what lenses you have for the 5d if you have a bag of L lenses seems silly to buy a Nikon. Years ago in my first staff job I was given a Eos 5 and thought it was pretty good preferred it to and eos 1 I had at the time why not pick one of those up they are stupid cheap on the big auction site.
 
@ David. I shoot with color negative and B&W film. That quietness of the F6 - as quiet as M6 - wow!

@Ko.fe That eye tracking is interesting but with my eos30 it does not really focus in the dark when even when it selects the patch my eye tracks. It needs the flash to flickr to be able to focus.

@ savekodak Thanks for your advice. Probably i could do everything with the Leica M's. Just not the quick close focus on the wedding ring being shown to the girlfiriends and stuff like that. But i hear you if you say that the bigger advantage with film is when shooting 6x6 or 645. Actually I am also considering Pentax 645N and have a Minolta Autocord TLR.

@ Fraser You are right about the F6 being more expensive. About twice the price of an 1v. No expensive L glass but i have more af canon lenses (28mm, 40mm 2.8, 50 1.8, 28-105) for the Canon.
I also thought about the eos 3 or 5 and can pick an Eos 5 up tomorrow for 25 euro. Will do that anyway. Interesting that you preferred it to eos 1. Why did you prefer it?
 
Not sure why I preferred it really at the time it just seemed really modern, maybe because I shot so much with it on average maybe 20 rolls of film a week. As to the eye focus I always thought that was a bit of a gimmick, I always just used the single point focus even today when shooting my 1dxs for work I just use single point.
 
The 1V is a beast of a machine that is the pinnacle of Canons Pro film SLR ambitions. The EOS 3 is very capable, and the eye-controlled focus is quite good, but can be a little quirky. I had the latter and replaced it with the 1V (I now have 2). I don't think there's much difference in shutter sound - if I remember correctly.

The more I consider it, I think Canons are just not 'cool' when compared with their Nikon equivalent - in this case the F6. It should be said, however that the Nikon has some unique features (data imprinting on the film for example) which has tempted me more than once. The cost is a deterrent though!
 
EOS3 is rather loud.

If you're considering 1 F6, i'd instead suggest 2-3 F100s. Keep different films in them, or dedicate them to certain lenses. But, most of all, to have a backup, which would be critical in most circumstances, but if you're just using the film camera 'on the side,' maybe not so much.
 
Roel said:
can pick an Eos 5 up tomorrow for 25 euro. Will do that anyway. Interesting that you preferred it to eos 1. Why did you prefer it?
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The EOS 5 is a fantastic camera. I have it and i also have the EOS-1n RS with the pellicle mirror. The EOS5 is just as quiet and can focus on absolutely everything due to the IR assist lamp it has. AF is just as fast as the EOS-1n. It has not failed me even once in the 18 years that i have it. It will do everything that you want it to do and possibly more.
 
Roel said:
@ David. I shoot with color negative and B&W film. That quietness of the F6 - as quiet as M6 - wow!
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Sorry to burst that bubble but it is not remotely as quiet as a Leica film M. Unless that Leica has a motor drive attached to it.
I use the F6, as well as Leicas. They are not on the same planet w/ re. to noise.
 
If it is important to you: 45 focuspoints in the Canon EOS 1v.
If you have decent glass with that 5D, just go with the Canon. The 1v is a great camera, it is a workhorse that just works. The F6 might be a little bit more refined, but when you're doing a wedding it doesn't matter. The 1v is waaaaaaaaay better then the plastic fantastic EOS 30.

In the end the differences are minimal and go with the one yoy have the best lenses for. And if you use that 5D for weddings already, it seems easy to me....
 
Do you think there is a difference in Low light focussing ability between F6 and F100 (Or eos5/3/1V)?



CK Dexter Haven said:
EOS3 is rather loud.

If you're considering 1 F6, i'd instead suggest 2-3 F100s. Keep different films in them, or dedicate them to certain lenses. But, most of all, to have a backup, which would be critical in most circumstances, but if you're just using the film camera 'on the side,' maybe not so much.
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Hi Addy,

I know the 1V is a better camera but the Leica M's and the eos30 are nice and light.

So I'm investigating if there is a speedy lowlight option. Much prefer a lighter option if Lowlight performance is similar.

Could be that in the end the Leica M will be the best focussing unit ;o)

Addy101 said:
If it is important to you: 45 focuspoints in the Canon EOS 1v.
If you have decent glass with that 5D, just go with the Canon. The 1v is a great camera, it is a workhorse that just works. The F6 might be a little bit more refined, but when you're doing a wedding it doesn't matter. The 1v is waaaaaaaaay better then the plastic fantastic EOS 30.

In the end the differences are minimal and go with the one yoy have the best lenses for. And if you use that 5D for weddings already, it seems easy to me....
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I know you have both Huss so thanx for the feedback. Would you say the F6 is loud or just mot as silent as the m6
Huss said:
Sorry to burst that bubble but it is not remotely as quiet as a Leica film M. Unless that Leica has a motor drive attached to it.
I use the F6, as well as Leicas. They are not on the same planet w/ re. to noise.
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Eos 3 and 1v will focus faster than your 5d (if its a classic) and with a good lens I dont think the eos 5 will be much slower.
 
wakarimasen said:
The 1V is a beast of a machine that is the pinnacle of Canons Pro film SLR ambitions. The EOS 3 is very capable, and the eye-controlled focus is quite good, but can be a little quirky. I had the latter and replaced it with the 1V (I now have 2). I don't think there's much difference in shutter sound - if I remember correctly.

The more I consider it, I think Canons are just not 'cool' when compared with their Nikon equivalent - in this case the F6. It should be said, however that the Nikon has some unique features (data imprinting on the film for example) which has tempted me more than once. The cost is a deterrent though!
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I know what you mean about the canons not being quite as cool as the Nikons, Eos 1v automatically prints serial number date etc at the beginning of each film with the standard back.
 
Today i tried the Eos 3 and 1V and Eos 5 side by side. Shutter sound of the 3 and 1v are almost the same. Eos 5 is considerably quieter. Got the Eos 5 with lens for 25 euro!!
Will do some tests with this one while i figure out if a Eos 3, 1V or F6/F100 would be a better choice regarding Sound and low light AF.

I read that the Eos 5 is faster/better in Lowlight focus than eos 3 or 1V so that's nice. Can anybody confirm this from experience?

F6 is a rare beast. Hope i can find one or see a video to see how they compare in lowlight af and sound. (the Nikons indeed look more sexy.)
 
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