Canonet giii ql17 stuck shutter/self timer.

[orangeju1ce]

Hi.

I know this topic has been covered over and over and over again, but I really need your guys' help..

I recently won a canonet qiii ql17 off an auction. I didn't think that i'd win, but i did! 🙂 The camera was sold AS-IS condition.. and I was really really hoping that the camera would work.

Unfortunately, when I got it, the self timer was stuck in the on position and the shutter was not releasing. I'm not sure how to un-jam the self timer or if the self timer is already broken.. Maybe the timer is stuck because the shutter isn't releasing?

This maybe alot to ask but can anyone give me picture instructions or step by step instructions on how to repair my camera (how to unjam the timer or open the camera) ? I have never ever repaired anything like this before so this will be my first time experience with this kind of stuff.

Thanks! I really appreciate it! 🙂

 

[dmr]

The service manual with exploded diagrams is on line, but I don't have the URL handy. Google and you will find, I'm sure.

If you can't find it, PM me and I will e-mail it. I know I have the complete archive somewhere.

 

[orangeju1ce]

Thanks! I found the repair manual. I've read some posts with similar problems. I'm not sure how to use the spanner wrench... are you supposed to just yank out the lenses or screw them out? :/

 

[Gumby]

Umm, neither. Maybe you'd better read the manual and then come back with your questions. 😉

 

[orangeju1ce]

Alright, so far, I have taken the front and middle lens elements off and I have been rubbing the shutter with lighter fluid. I noticed that when the lighter fluid dries, the shutter gets stuck again. Is this common?

here's a picture:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonathanwang/3383497677/sizes/m/

Do I have to disassemble the camera more? 😛

 

[Sonnar Brian]

Try 99% Isopropyl Alchohol. Sometimes one works better than the other. And sometimes repeated application is required.

 

[wakarimasen]

Hello folks,
Does someone know the link for the repair manual that was mentioned above? Also, is there a current equivalent for the 1.3v mercury battery that the QL19 uses?
Best regards,
RoyM

 

[pocho_1976]

the missing link, i hope helps you

http://www.kyphoto.com/classics/repairmanuals.html

and about battery

http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-111.html

 

[wakarimasen]

Excellent - many thanks!

 

[Cymro]

I've used a mix of pencil graphite and lighter fluid for sticky shutter leaves. However, I have no experience of it on a Canon. The fluid gets the graphite into place then dries out. The graphite then acts as the lubricant.

Grind a small bit of soft (6b or softer) pencil lead on a hard surface, like a floor tile, until you get a fine powder. Mix this powder with a drop of lighter fluid (use an eggcup to contain the mess). Make it quite fluid and then apply it in tiny quantites (& carefully) onto the mating faces of the shutter and fire the shutter. See how it settles after drying, if still sticky have another go. Slowly the quantity of graphite builds until it gives sufficient lubrication. Use a small watercolour painting brush, ideally one thats been used a bit and not shedding fibres!

You will need to clean excess graphite from where it is not needed, do this very carefully.

Best of luck.

 

[dmr]

I've used a mix of pencil graphite and lighter fluid for sticky shutter leaves. However, I have no experience of it on a Canon. The fluid gets the graphite into place then dries out. The graphite then acts as the lubricant.

Back when I was repairing mine (stuck shutter) a co-worker gave me a small amount of graphite suspension lubricant. He uses this for "clocks and locks" and states "a little for a clock, a lot for a lock", but the folks here told me it was a Bad Thing<tm> to try to lubricate a shutter with this. I forget the exact reason, but it sounded convincing.

 

[januaryman]

I would guess the black graphite specks would somehow wind up on the lens, yes?

 

[Cymro]

Grind it fine, real fine and use it oh so sparingly. But yes, it may not suit all situations. Your aim is to leave the smallest smear of graphite.

Otherwise have a good rub around with a toothbrush and give everything a blast of teflon spray.............:bang: (please don't!!)