ampguy
Veteran
The CV 35/1.7 is a pretty darn good lens.
andreios
Well-known
Maybe you are right, Christian.
However, I`ve just discovered a picture of those two lenses side by side and I`ve again decided for the relative compactness of the Nokton. And hereby I am solemnly stopping talking and thinking about it.
Krosya
Konicaze
Kozhe
Well-known
I agree too. The Nokton is just a fast compact lens, from f4 on it´s less than spectacular and degrades fast in what sharpness concerns... Might do quite well on film but not so cool on digital once you compare it to other slower compacts.
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RFluhver
Well-known
You seem quite price-sensitive. In that case, pick what you can afford now, start shooting and see what you can do with it. One thing I never understand are the many blokes around here who spend thousands of bucks only to use their fancy gear taking happy snaps of the wife and kids.
I mean if that's all you're gonna do with your lens and Leica, then why not just buy a P&S? You could even buy a Leica P&S if you really badly need a Leica.
You get my drift?
I mean if that's all you're gonna do with your lens and Leica, then why not just buy a P&S? You could even buy a Leica P&S if you really badly need a Leica.
You get my drift?
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
andreios,
All these lenses are great. They're better than real shooting and us are able to get from them.
You can always trade a lens after trying it, because all of us like to try them, so don't worry...
Get a great, cheap, fast and small one and you'll enjoy it and your shots.
And who knows... Maybe in some time you get another one, a big, expensive, slower one, and you end up liking and keeping both... That's how this goes: be ready for a second body too!
Cheers,
Juan
All these lenses are great. They're better than real shooting and us are able to get from them.
You can always trade a lens after trying it, because all of us like to try them, so don't worry...
Get a great, cheap, fast and small one and you'll enjoy it and your shots.
And who knows... Maybe in some time you get another one, a big, expensive, slower one, and you end up liking and keeping both... That's how this goes: be ready for a second body too!
Cheers,
Juan
andreios
Well-known
Thanks for answers..
Well, I am quite price sensitive - my income does not grow as quick as my family do.. But I do not shoot happy family shots - you can see stuff I am interested in on my flickr or photoblog.
However, one of the reasons why I decided to try RF shooting was that I wanted to concentrate more on composition, light and exposure (without those whispers I hear while shooting DSLR - "you can always crop it", "it`ll look good after a while of fiddling in iPhoto"..) My aim is to shoot pictures, not megabytes and pixels for playing with on the computer.
I wanted to pick up ONE lens (for time being) and as a newbie in this field I wanted to hear some opinions - which I have heard and am thankful for them - but it can be said - do not go to an enthusiast`s forum for advice for they will say both yes and no.
I've done much flickr-browsing in the last two days (instead of RFF browsing ) - at first i was concerned mostly about things like composition etc. but then started to notice tags and descriptions about lenses used - and I think I am slowly coming to realization that I like the results from the f2.5 color skopar more than from other lenses (well, except some older Leitz/Leica lenses which I am not accustomed with) - perhaps it is just that I happen to like a bit contrastier pictures more. I do not know. Next days will show with which lens I`ll end up.
PS: As for trading lenses - of course it is a possibility, but taking in consideration shipping costs and the fact that many people just don`t want to make business overseas (not mentioning sponsoring this government by paying customs) keeps me away from relying too much on this possibility...
Well, I am quite price sensitive - my income does not grow as quick as my family do..
But I do not shoot happy family shots - you can see stuff I am interested in on my flickr or photoblog.However, one of the reasons why I decided to try RF shooting was that I wanted to concentrate more on composition, light and exposure (without those whispers I hear while shooting DSLR - "you can always crop it", "it`ll look good after a while of fiddling in iPhoto"..) My aim is to shoot pictures, not megabytes and pixels for playing with on the computer.
I wanted to pick up ONE lens (for time being) and as a newbie in this field I wanted to hear some opinions - which I have heard and am thankful for them - but it can be said - do not go to an enthusiast`s forum for advice for they will say both yes and no.
I've done much flickr-browsing in the last two days (instead of RFF browsing
) - at first i was concerned mostly about things like composition etc. but then started to notice tags and descriptions about lenses used - and I think I am slowly coming to realization that I like the results from the f2.5 color skopar more than from other lenses (well, except some older Leitz/Leica lenses which I am not accustomed with) - perhaps it is just that I happen to like a bit contrastier pictures more. I do not know. Next days will show with which lens I`ll end up. PS: As for trading lenses - of course it is a possibility, but taking in consideration shipping costs and the fact that many people just don`t want to make business overseas (not mentioning sponsoring this government by paying customs) keeps me away from relying too much on this possibility...
taffy
Well-known
I have not been shooting RFs for very long but let me share a bit of what I've learned though my experience.
My first lens was the 35 2.5 PII and I did not regret buying it. Sharp, contrasty, and most of all, compact. Having 3 lenses now (added an Elmar 50 /2.8 & CV 25 /4) I realize that I have the focal lengths I need and love shooting with. However, I also feel that they are not fast enough indoors and in the evenings. That's why I hardly shoot at night or as much indoors unless I have high ISO film (which is expensive and takes longer to develop if achieved through pushing-- big deal to me) so my camera is pretty much limited to daytime / outdoor use.
That's why I feel I need a fast lens. This will allow me to shoot in most/more conditions and really have my RF camera with me more often. You might want to consider that as you choose. If I were to recommend, my pick between your choices, is the 40 1.4. It allows you to shoot in the most conditions.
But then again, it all depends on what you shoot. All the best on your choice! Hope this helps you.
My first lens was the 35 2.5 PII and I did not regret buying it. Sharp, contrasty, and most of all, compact. Having 3 lenses now (added an Elmar 50 /2.8 & CV 25 /4) I realize that I have the focal lengths I need and love shooting with. However, I also feel that they are not fast enough indoors and in the evenings. That's why I hardly shoot at night or as much indoors unless I have high ISO film (which is expensive and takes longer to develop if achieved through pushing-- big deal to me) so my camera is pretty much limited to daytime / outdoor use.
That's why I feel I need a fast lens. This will allow me to shoot in most/more conditions and really have my RF camera with me more often. You might want to consider that as you choose. If I were to recommend, my pick between your choices, is the 40 1.4. It allows you to shoot in the most conditions.
But then again, it all depends on what you shoot. All the best on your choice! Hope this helps you.
andreios
Well-known
Only a little update - I`ve picked up a Nokton and have managed to shoot w/ it for one weekend, here are some results. As for handling it was a pleasure, as for results - I`m quite happy with them considering that I was so foolish that w/ this new lens a camera I`ve also used a new film (fuji acros)...
and a bit of bw bokeh
(there are bigger versions of these on my flickr, more will come)
and a bit of bw bokeh
(there are bigger versions of these on my flickr, more will come)
