JohnTF
Veteran
Was looking for a miracle cure, and I got by for a few months.
I can say, I had the camera in for cleaning and back to Leica for the -- whatever it was greasy stuff-- on the sensor.
Am Googling Visible Dust's Arctic Butterfly, and if it is a porn site, will let you know.
Careful compressed gas, well, it rearranged some of the tiny pieces of lint.
I am reading in the tea leaves that a lesson in cleaning is in my future.
I normally leave cleaning inside of things to pros, the ones who can afford to fix it again if it is damaged?
Regards, any miracles can be reported ASAP.
John
I can say, I had the camera in for cleaning and back to Leica for the -- whatever it was greasy stuff-- on the sensor.
Am Googling Visible Dust's Arctic Butterfly, and if it is a porn site, will let you know.
Careful compressed gas, well, it rearranged some of the tiny pieces of lint.
I am reading in the tea leaves that a lesson in cleaning is in my future.
I normally leave cleaning inside of things to pros, the ones who can afford to fix it again if it is damaged?
Regards, any miracles can be reported ASAP.
John
Ricko of Fla
Established
For $12. you can do your own sensor. The Lens pen cheep and easy , I have used the pen on my canon and now on my M8
Check out this site https://store.birdsasart.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=13
Check out this site https://store.birdsasart.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=13
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
Was looking for a miracle cure, and I got by for a few months.
I can say, I had the camera in for cleaning and back to Leica for the -- whatever it was greasy stuff-- on the sensor.
Am Googling Visible Dust's Arctic Butterfly, and if it is a porn site, will let you know.
Careful compressed gas, well, it rearranged some of the tiny pieces of lint.
I am reading in the tea leaves that a lesson in cleaning is in my future.
I normally leave cleaning inside of things to pros, the ones who can afford to fix it again if it is damaged?
Regards, any miracles can be reported ASAP.
John
NEVER!!!! compressed gas. Unless you like horror stories of course...
The Giotto Rocket blower is fine.
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
Visible Dust's "Arctic Butterfly" is all I used (on the M8) and all I will use now on my D700's. I think only the most stubborn of "dust" particles would require a wet cleaning method (Copperhhill method which I've used since the Canon 10D).
Cheers,
Dave
Cheers,
Dave
JohnTF
Veteran
NEVER!!!! compressed gas. Unless you like horror stories of course...
The Giotto Rocket blower is fine.
Appreciate the warning, can is almost empty, pressure low, and held at a distance, calculated risk. Was looking for the bulb blower I normally have in the bag.
John
JohnTF
Veteran
Visible Dust's "Arctic Butterfly" is all I used (on the M8) and all I will use now on my D700's. I think only the most stubborn of "dust" particles would require a wet cleaning method (Copperhhill method which I've used since the Canon 10D).
Cheers,
Dave
Am looking to order one, am not going to tell you what I thought the first time I saw one, -- well, I will,-- I did not get it right away that you turn off the spin cycle before you clean the sensor.
Thought it was expensive, but if it does the job, I can save that in gas to the shop.
And if it works, it works.
Thanks, John
JohnTF
Veteran
Seems the "Tim Allen" approach? Says electronics, not camera sensors in the ad.
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=211190111&adid=17653&dcaid=17653
Regards, John
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=211190111&adid=17653&dcaid=17653
Regards, John
NIKON KIU
Did you say Nippon Kogaku
I love polls, can we pleeaaasssseeee do a poll? I don't think we've done a M8 poll in-a-while.We haven't had a run of polls in a while. Perhaps we should have a poll to see if we should have a poll on this? :angel:
Kiu
I'll be happy with a poll for a poll also
ampguy
Veteran
I agree
I agree
I have a couple of miniscule dust specs that can be seen at 200% crops shooting the sky at f16, but not visible at f11 or wider apertures.
Since I rarely shoot at smaller than 5.6, I'm going to not worry about the specs but continue to regularly check.
If I did any cleaning, I'd use the Rocket blower first, which usually does fine on the dlsrs. I do have a bunch of pads, proper spatula (for M8 and Nikon) from the DSLR setup.
I agree
I have a couple of miniscule dust specs that can be seen at 200% crops shooting the sky at f16, but not visible at f11 or wider apertures.
Since I rarely shoot at smaller than 5.6, I'm going to not worry about the specs but continue to regularly check.
If I did any cleaning, I'd use the Rocket blower first, which usually does fine on the dlsrs. I do have a bunch of pads, proper spatula (for M8 and Nikon) from the DSLR setup.
I find that cleaning a sensor involves several sessions of cleaning and testing for results. You might save yourself a little money and time waiting if you try again to clean it yourself.
Yes, you don't want to ruin the heart of your M8. But if you use a proper cleaning tool (that doesn't scratch it or make it worse) you can certainly do it yourself. It's really just a matter of (verrry carefully) cleaning a little piece of glass.
I learned to clean my own sensors after a repair shop returned a 30D with a "cleaned sensor" that was full of spots.
I clean my M8 periodically with no problems. I find it to be a pretty leaky camera. (Incidentally, my R-D1 never needed cleaning.) Condensation from going into and out of cold may exacerbate the problem of spots on the sensor. So you may have to have to learn to clean your M8 eventually.
To test whether the sensor has spots, shoot one or two pictures of something like bright sky at f/22. (I take two shots of a light table. Two shots with the camera moved slightly ensures that I'm not just seeing a spot on the light table.) View the shots on your monitor, and it will be easy to tell if there are spots on the sensor. If there are, clean them and test again.
If you don't usually do shooting at f/22, you needn't really worry about spots. They won't show up when the lens is wide open.
Ronald M
Veteran
DACha above gives you wonderful advice. Go back a read it again and again.
Prevention is better than cure. I do a precautionary blow out after each outing before any dust has a chance to migrate to the sensor. Do not open the shutter unless you know there is dust there already.
Prevention is better than cure. I do a precautionary blow out after each outing before any dust has a chance to migrate to the sensor. Do not open the shutter unless you know there is dust there already.
JohnTF
Veteran
Got the arctic butterfly, seems to do the trick for dust, had to use it twice though and overpaid for one, best price seemed to be from them directly.
And, I had a piece of lint that showed at a number of settings, actually all of them, was sharper stopped down. ;-)
I have a dealer, Campus Camera in Kent, who will clean it for me for nada, but it is about an hour each way driving. Still, an option when needed.
Regards, John
And, I had a piece of lint that showed at a number of settings, actually all of them, was sharper stopped down. ;-)
I have a dealer, Campus Camera in Kent, who will clean it for me for nada, but it is about an hour each way driving. Still, an option when needed.
Regards, John
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ampguy
Veteran
What will the "Butterfly" do that the Rocket Blower and microtools E2 with proper size wand and swabs won't do?
furcafe
Veteran
The Butterfly disperses static as well as acting as a brush.
What will the "Butterfly" do that the Rocket Blower and microtools E2 with proper size wand and swabs won't do?
MCTuomey
Veteran
For $12. you can do your own sensor. The Lens pen cheep and easy , I have used the pen on my canon and now on my M8
Check out this site https://store.birdsasart.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=13
+1 but don't use the pen for anything other than sensor cleaning
oldoc
oldoc
DAG has my M8 after a similar misadventure...
Wiyum
Established
I'll throw in yet another Arctic Butterfly recommendation. After a shoot in the desert with several lens changes (damn my insistence on primes), I really knew how invaluable it was. It is simple to use, just about idiot proof, and has yet to fail me when removing dust and other particular accumulations.
Oil, of course, is another story.
Oil, of course, is another story.
JohnTF
Veteran
I'll throw in yet another Arctic Butterfly recommendation. After a shoot in the desert with several lens changes (damn my insistence on primes), I really knew how invaluable it was. It is simple to use, just about idiot proof, and has yet to fail me when removing dust and other particular accumulations.
Oil, of course, is another story.
Idiot proof, you mean you turn it off before you insert it into the camera. ;-)
Also, I ended up paying the same for the non light one as the new one with an led. It removed dust that blowing did not.
John
ampguy
Veteran
Thanks for all the tips on the butterfly, it sounds like a good brush, and the LED seems useful.
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