Considering an SLR

These guys are surprisingly nearly identical in size and weight.

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Personally, I would recommend the Nikon F3HP with a Zeiss 35mm f2.0 & a late model Nikon 50mm f1.4. This should set you back around 2k. (The Nikon 35mm is just or almost as expensive as a Zeiss.) You might want to try the old Pentax screw mount lenses as they produce wonderful images. The Pentax Spotmatic is a little more difficult to work with as the meter needs to be set after each photograph. They do make adapters for the screw mount to the more modern (if that can be said) Pentaxs. There will be two difficulties with older cameras. They are the battery issue and finding a 35mm f2.0 lens. For the first most older cameras used the now extinct mercury battery. As for the second, the 35mm focal length was not popular so they are not as common as other focal lengths.
 
I have just bought a Nikon F4. It does lots of complex things in a simple way, and above all it is trully compatible with every single Nikkor I have.
 
How about the Minolta XD-7 ? Excellent build quality, quite compact and in very reasonable price.
In Photo.net they show the picture i post below, and they ask to identify which one is the Minolta and which one is the Leica R6.

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How about the Minolta XD-7 ? Excellent build quality, quite compact in very reasonable price.
In Photo.net they show the picture i post below, and they ask to identify which one is the Minolta and which one is the Leica R6.

I can tell you the top one was built in Japan by Minolta...

As was the bottom one.
 
Not economical, but if I was after a 35mm SLR, I'd be looking at Alpa, one of the few 35mm cameras that I've wanted but not tried. If not that, then a Nikon F. If meter is non-negotiable, then I find my OM2n to be tiny and pleasant to use with a big finder.
 
I can tell you the top one was built in Japan by Minolta...

As was the bottom one.

I knew that the R4/R5 were Minolta/Leica products. I always thought that the R6 was made by Leica only.

Anyway, I just wanted to make the point that the XD series is a quality offer from Minolta worth considering.
 
I knew that the R4/R5 were Minolta/Leica products. I always thought that the R6 was made by Leica only.

Anyway, I just wanted to make the point that the XD series is a quality offer from Minolta worth considering.

I'll second that and add that the lower down the peck order ones are nice too. I use the X-300 as much as the XD-7 and both about the same as my late (dead) R5. OTOH, the R5 can be still be repaired by Leica, but at a price...

I never checked it but do the lenses fit each other? Because the Minolta f/1.4's are nice and cheap, when the Leica R lenses' prices are used for comparisons.

Regards, David
 
I'll second that and add that the lower down the peck order ones are nice too. I use the X-300 as much as the XD-7 and both about the same as my late (dead) R5. OTOH, the R5 can be still be repaired by Leica, but at a price...

I never checked it but do the lenses fit each other? Because the Minolta f/1.4's are nice and cheap, when the Leica R lenses' prices are used for comparisons.

Regards, David

Nope, different mounts. Love my Minolta Rokkors on my XD and X-series cameras and even on my Nex F3 😎

The top one is the Leica R6. Two reasons. First, my Minolta XD's don't have the contacts shown there :bang: and the integrated circuits proof it is a newer camera then the bottom one 😀

Still, great to see clear proof that the Leica R6 was based on the Minolta XD-series.
 
Nope, different mounts. Love my Minolta Rokkors on my XD and X-series cameras and even on my Nex F3 😎

The top one is the Leica R6. Two reasons. First, my Minolta XD's don't have the contacts shown there :bang: and the integrated circuits proof it is a newer camera then the bottom one 😀

Still, great to see clear proof that the Leica R6 was based on the Minolta XD-series.

Thanks for the info. another minor worry dealt with!

I've always thought Minolta were/are grossly under-rated. Even their P&S's are great and strangely like the Leica mini in one case...

Regards, David
 
Some points to consider:

1) The availability of new mechanical SLR's is essentially zilch, whatever camera is purchased must be economically serviceable.

2) Used lenses are a crap shoot (in that it may be necessary to purchase multiple copies to obtain a decent optic). Note that a used lens is also likely to require servicing.

Remembering the above points, lets consider the requirements (assuming, of course, that they are written in stone):

I'm looking for something reasonably compact, using modern batteries for the meter, mechanical, with a bright viewfinder that can take a diopter lens or adjusting.

Assuming that "reasonably" compact excludes cameras such as the Nikon F series, IMO, the options here are:

1) Olympus OM-1n
2) Nikon FM/FM2

These bodies can be economically serviced and the OM-1 can be modified to use the S-76 battery. Diopters can be found for both.

Would need a 35 and a 50, both with comparable quality to modern summicrons.

Both Olympus and Nikon have a selection of excellent 50mm lenses.

However, with regard to the 35mm focal length, IMO, there is no Summicron equivalent from either company. (FWIW, I have owned them all and have NOT been impressed with any.)

Fortunately, the Zeiss Distagon 35mm is available in a Nikon mount. While this lens is not exactly cheap (or small), it is by most accounts, an excellent optic.

So, in conclusion, the only body that fully meets the stated requirements is the Nikon FM/FM2.

The Olympus OM-1n is only an option if the OP can relax the 35mm Summicron equivalent.
 
Thanks again guys. That was a very useful comparison, thank you!

It is indeed a much larger system. Do you have any samples of photos taken with the 35f2 on the FM3a? How do you like that particular setup?

I repeat myself, said this somewhere, maybe even in this thread: the 2/35 AI has awful flare.

The Distagon is probably much better but an oder of magnitude more $$.

You have the choice.
 
bonatto, I recently went through the same exercise. Believe it or not, I ended up with a Leica R8, and a couple of Vario Elmars. I was shocked at how cheap they were. Yes, the R8 is on the large-ish side, but wow... what a joy to use and shoot.
 
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