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You are making too much out of this. Just buy a digital camera of whatever make and learn how to use it. Take it from there.
Contemplating the unthinkable for me
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FrankS
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Ex2 body has been bought. Just waiting on a ltm/M adaptor in the mail.
FrankS
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Question: how much would you pay for an ex condition used xe1 body with box, these days?
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$250...tops
Sparrow
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... is it me, or does that slippery-slope look a little steeper?
Michael Markey
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Its a steep as you want it to be 😀
I more inclined to agree with Peter ...just go and buy a digital, use it and take it from there.
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any pics yet frank?
FrankS
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So here's the story so far. I bought a new xe2 body, no lens. Joe graciously offered to send me Leica adaptors so I could use lenses I already have. While waiting for the mail, I bought a used xe1 with 27mm lens for the lens. I was able to do a partial gear trade with surplus gear which reduced my cash outlay. I have the used xe1 body listed on kijiji for sale, no takers yet.
I've taken some shots with the xe1 with the 27 and via adaptor, a cv21 and canon 50. Big learning curve for me, with all those menus and settings. Those pics are on a memory card. I'm using an iPad, so I have no direct way to post them online.
The new xe2 body with wifi photo transfer, is still waiting for me to load the latest firmware. My cheap netbook couldn't download the file. Using my daughter's MacBook Pro, the file downloaded but we couldn't move the file to my card. Tomorrow, I'll try my son's laptop.
I have a question: how is the 27mm lens firmware updated? The same way, with a different downloaded file on the memory card inserted into camera?
It's frustrating, but in a way it's funny how inept I am with this. It's so foreign.
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so you have a 1 plus a 2?
talk about diving in with both feet!
talk about diving in with both feet!
FrankS
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Go big or go home. I bought the xe2 body new with no lens. Then I bought a used xe1 with 27 pancake lens for the lens. Selling off the xe1 body. I was able to swing this right after buying a new body, because the seller accepted a partial gear trade.
I love the compactness of the 27. In film, I'm a single focal length lens kind of guy, but with digital, and with such good fuji zooms, I'd still like to get the 18-55 kit lens for its versatility.
I love the compactness of the 27. In film, I'm a single focal length lens kind of guy, but with digital, and with such good fuji zooms, I'd still like to get the 18-55 kit lens for its versatility.
Sparrow
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I bought a nikon d70 a while back to see if I could cope with changing to digital, I picked that one because it has no automation at all with an AIS lens fitted.
It turned out to be quit easy, it's very much like using slide film and I just need to pretend I'm using CT21 ... its when one is faced with all the bells and whistles they fit then with that it one gets lost in the complexity ...
It turned out to be quit easy, it's very much like using slide film and I just need to pretend I'm using CT21 ... its when one is faced with all the bells and whistles they fit then with that it one gets lost in the complexity ...
nongfuspring
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Yes, the same way. Just a tip with the firmware download, sometimes for some reason or another the firmware patch doesn't download completely/properly from the fuji website to the computer. To make sure that it downloaded correctly check to make sure the file size of the downloaded file matches the file size stated on the website. If it doesn't work then just download again. It happened to me once so perhaps that's what the issue was with your daughter's laptop.
OurManInTangier
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This is possibly one of the biggest turn offs with digital for most photographers who are coming from film only use, at least from what I hear and read. Once you get above the point and shoot digi cams the manufacturers seem to offer every manner of bell and whistle in the same way Nikon and Canon offer settings and abilities many will never use but others will, it reminds me of using Photoshop where I probably only make use of 10-20% of the programs ability. Switch everything off until its a manual only camera and then start investigating one thing at a time - some of the add-ons are absolutely superb under the right circumstances, at other times they'll just trip you up and get in the way.
Discovering what works best and when is part and parcel of digital photography it seems.
Frank, that 18-55 kit lens is possibly one of the best kit lenses I've ever used. I sold one that came with one of my XPro bodies and then went out a few months later and bought another, it doesn't get used much but when its needed its there...and it gets the job done well too.
daveleo
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Must agree with OMiT . . . . turn everything off until the camera is "manual only" and start there.
These cameras try to be all things to all people, in terms of features.
These cameras try to be all things to all people, in terms of features.
OurManInTangier
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FrankS
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Thanks so much for your comments and helping out a noob.
When downloading the update, I noticed that the file was about 2mb larger than the file size specified on the fuji website. Larger, not smaller and incomplete. What's up with that?
When downloading the update, I noticed that the file was about 2mb larger than the file size specified on the fuji website. Larger, not smaller and incomplete. What's up with that?
willie_901
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Frank,
The Fujifilm website is ... uh, well ... an adventure in time travel to the past. Many new customers have suffered frustration from this antique website.
Fujifilm Japan barely realizes Apple exists. So differences in file sizes are probably irrelevant.
Each firmware file has a meaningless file name. You must not rename the files. instead you have to organize them carefully (see below).
If there happens to be more than one Fujifilm download file in the OS X downloads Folder, it is easy to copy the wrong file to the SDHC card. You are responsible for organizing the firmware updates and keeping them straight (separate) from one another). I use a system of OS X Folders organized by camera bodies, lenses and dates. This should be completely unnecessary... but it is.
If the SDHC card is formatted or if a file is deleted using OS X (Macs), then Fujifilm can not deal with the invisible UNIX bookkeeping file OS X adds to the card. The solution is to format the card in the camera and transfer the correct firmware to the SDHC card. Never, ever delete image files from the SDHC card with OS X. Always reformat the card in-camera.
I know it's hard to believe, but once you know how the odd, old-fashioned Fujifim firmware group's delivery system works, it is reliable.
The Fujifilm website is ... uh, well ... an adventure in time travel to the past. Many new customers have suffered frustration from this antique website.
Fujifilm Japan barely realizes Apple exists. So differences in file sizes are probably irrelevant.
Each firmware file has a meaningless file name. You must not rename the files. instead you have to organize them carefully (see below).
If there happens to be more than one Fujifilm download file in the OS X downloads Folder, it is easy to copy the wrong file to the SDHC card. You are responsible for organizing the firmware updates and keeping them straight (separate) from one another). I use a system of OS X Folders organized by camera bodies, lenses and dates. This should be completely unnecessary... but it is.
If the SDHC card is formatted or if a file is deleted using OS X (Macs), then Fujifilm can not deal with the invisible UNIX bookkeeping file OS X adds to the card. The solution is to format the card in the camera and transfer the correct firmware to the SDHC card. Never, ever delete image files from the SDHC card with OS X. Always reformat the card in-camera.
I know it's hard to believe, but once you know how the odd, old-fashioned Fujifim firmware group's delivery system works, it is reliable.
FrankS
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Thank you Willie!
nongfuspring
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Oh the fujifilm website seems to trip up the best of us. A bit odd that the file size is too big, but I would imagine the files can corrupt in either direction. Best way forward is to delete your browser cache (can be done through a browser's history menu) and download it again. The file size does seem to be relevant, I remember there being something on the web page that said to confirm the file sizes are the same or delete and start again, others online have said something to similar effect.
FrankS
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Yes, that's why I mentioned it. The fuji site specifically says to check and compare the file size.
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