Sparrow
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Critique and Opinion ... anybody know the difference between the two?
Critique and Opinion ...
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Pherdinand
the snow must go on
yes, "critique" is the opinion of someone with too much self-confidence.
kbg32
neo-romanticist
critique - a detailed analysis and assessment of something. Estimation of the nature, quality, or ability of someone or something
opinion - a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge
Which all leads to JUDGEMENT -
- the ability to make considered decisions or come to sensible conclusions:
- a misfortune or calamity viewed as a divine punishment:
opinion - a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge
Which all leads to JUDGEMENT -
- the ability to make considered decisions or come to sensible conclusions:
- a misfortune or calamity viewed as a divine punishment:
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
here's another difference. I can say "in my opinion, this image is boring" but apparently that is NOT a valid "critique".
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Sparrow
Veteran
... or too much knowledge?
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
Or too much knowledge, yes. 🙂
At second thought: no, there is no such thing as too much knowledge, only proverbially (one can say "he knew too much so he had to die")
At second thought: no, there is no such thing as too much knowledge, only proverbially (one can say "he knew too much so he had to die")
Sparrow
Veteran
... I have a financial adviser like that ... :nods-head:
f16sunshine
Moderator
Within photography...
Critique is an assessment and resulting suggestions based on an objective view established within widely accepted "rules".
Opinion is often a subjective reaction.
Sometimes opinions are actually more useful but not often.
Critique is an assessment and resulting suggestions based on an objective view established within widely accepted "rules".
Opinion is often a subjective reaction.
Sometimes opinions are actually more useful but not often.
Sparrow
Veteran
... may I press you on that last statement ...
'Sometimes opinions are actually more useful but not often'
... occasionally, sometimes, mostly, generally? ... how would we know what to edit or publish without understanding the perception of others?
f16sunshine
Moderator
Sure.
First of all the statement is my opinion 🙂
What I feel is sometimes hearing the opinion and reaction of others helps me to cement my intention.
A critique (as I defined) may bring only information of shortcomings ( or rule breaking) I am already aware of and, may or may not improve or even have further control of.
Opinions can bring things that I had not previously considered. A more subjective view from another pair of eyes and heart.
A proper critique is an acedemic process where an opinion is more emotion based.
As to your further question. I suppose the answer is going to vary for every person.
Some are fine with taking chances based on their own vision. Others are dependent on the reflection of others before final edits and presentation.
Most fall in to both camps at one time or another depending on, the desired result and desired reaction(s).
Sparrow
Veteran
... that's a nicely presented position, and I pretty much agree with it. The last part I've found that people in 'the trade' think it is generally, yet those outside think their view prevails ... opinion trumps learning every time
I'm retired so it's less of a problem now.
--s
Well-known
It depends.....
If you think there are no rules in art, critique in the academic sense is impossible. I think so.
Besides, when the moment is gone, it´s gone, without a second chance to improve a shot. So what´s the use of critisicing a photograph?
Opinion often comes in the disguise of critique.
Opinion holds a certain emotional value, which may be a better basis for discussion than rational aspects (content versus form).
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If you think there are no rules in art, critique in the academic sense is impossible. I think so.
Besides, when the moment is gone, it´s gone, without a second chance to improve a shot. So what´s the use of critisicing a photograph?
Opinion often comes in the disguise of critique.
Opinion holds a certain emotional value, which may be a better basis for discussion than rational aspects (content versus form).
...
Sparrow
Veteran
... future practice? ... well ... if one is intent on improvement perhaps
--s
Well-known
Everybody is able to see when the own shot is good or not, and why, and why not. Self- critique should do.
Or am I too autistic here?
Ok, technical basics can be improved by critique. But that´s not what you´re aiming at, right?
Or am I too autistic here?
Ok, technical basics can be improved by critique. But that´s not what you´re aiming at, right?
FrankS
Registered User
A photographer may be too close/involved in his creation/baby to see it objectively. Hearing what others think is helpful, I think.
Sparrow
Veteran
... "Self- critique should do." ... do you not care what your viewers think of your photos then?
Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
Sparrow
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Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
They are, in reality, the same. But if you pay for it, you'll likely call it a critique. 🙂
back alley
IMAGES
i like a response to my images...
even feedback...
not too sure how brutal i want it...
even feedback...
not too sure how brutal i want it...
