CV about to announce an M Mount 50mm f1.1 Nokton!

Carlos Cruz said:
that's three ?'s 😉
What's the close focus, any chance for 0,7m?
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Close focus is 1 meter. To do the 0.7 would have compromised the performance at other distances and also raised the cost substantially. I did ask about that.
As for how many elements and groups - I suspect all of that will be revealed on Cameraquest,com and/or Cosina's website later today. I was far too interested in shooting with the lens than finding things like that out anyway.
Of course, I instantly thought "Hmm, this lens in a SC mount would be nice too". I have suggested it (of course) but so far no response.
 
Tom A said:
Close focus is 1 meter. To do the 0.7 would have compromised the performance at other distances and also raised the cost substantially. I did ask about that.
As for how many elements and groups - I suspect all of that will be revealed on Cameraquest,com and/or Cosina's website later today. I was far too interested in shooting with the lens than finding things like that out anyway.
Of course, I instantly thought "Hmm, this lens in a SC mount would be nice too". I have suggested it (of course) but so far no response.
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An SC would be perfect for my IIIG. 🙂
 
Okay- Venture a guess(es)... 7 elements 5 groups, 3 aspheric surfaces...SC mount in 6 months. 150 units. 30% premium for the S-Mount. Comes in at less than 50% cost of a Nikkor-N 5cm F1.1... I can dream...
 
Thanks for the pictures Tom. However they are too small to see much. Plus as someone already said - colour pics would be interesting to see as well. From little I can see in Tom's pics I think bokeh on this lens looks more like bokeh from CV 40/1.4, at least in this shot it does:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rapidwinder/3405738511/in/set-72157616278125070/

Yet in some other shots it looks smoother, but so far none look like CV 35/1.2 to me. So, need more pics! (hint) 😉
But overall looks like a nice lens. Not sure if I'll buy one will have to see more pics under different conditions, But I did guess the price (well almost - I said $1200).
I'm sure it'll sell well.
 
I think the problem is with the creative commons licence. It needs to be modified to give other Flickr users access to bigger size.
 
Tom A said:
I just put up 18 shots done with the Nokton 50mm f1.1 on our Flickr site.
Use the tag "Voigtlander Nokton 50mm f1.1" and they should show up. These are large enough files that if you take them up to "original" size you can see details. I tried to pick somewhat representative images (f1.1, close (1m) and stopped down a bit etc).
Sharpness at f1.1 is quite remarkable - very low flare, very little if any distorsion and, yes , it is a damned good lens and at a price that is palatable too.
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Tom,
Is it aspherical design? :angel:
Thanks,
Rob.
 
Running Tom's set as a slideshow ( with embiggen off ) gives a nice sharp 1024 pixel image that's good enough to see his name tag in the left corner.

The focus shifting? effect in the 1000 dolls image is interesting : the front row, where the main focus is, is sharp then as the rows look to recede, the centre softens but the edges stay sharp right into the corners.
 
Tom, thanks for the flickr samples.

An affordable 50/f1 could wake my interest in the M system again, but the photos you posted quite lack the "superspeed look" of the Noct and partially the Nokton 35/1.2.

Where´s the point in using a fat fast lens that draws pretty much like a standard 50? (Yes I admit, I´m bokeholic...)
 
I looked at them in slideshow, worked great. The bokeh looks much nicer when the images are bigger, it looked odd when looking at the little thumbnails.

What an exciting lens, it looks very sharp wide open and perfectly useable as an everyday lens in the middle of the aperture range. Some of the shots that Tom posted around f5.6 - f8 looks wonderfully sharp and detailed all the way to the corners... I'm pleasantly suprised.

How long until this lens makes it to my hot little hands? The new 15mm shiped quite fast, but then again, the optics were already being produced. CV now has a huge market share of superb alternatives to Leica fast glass.

Congratz to Mr. K for coming out with such a nice product for such a great price. Maybe they can beat Leica to a 28mm f1.4 (although having used the 28mm f2 for a week, I can say that it's a stunning lens on it's on)(
 
Tom A said:
Indeed, there is a 50mm f1.1 from Cosina. I did shoot with it in March when we were in japan. Of course, i had to keep quiet about it, which is not easy!
It is a very sweet lens, slightly smaller than an older style Noctilux, 58mm filter thread. Weight seemed to be similar, or slightly lighter. The prototype looked a bit like a Nokton 50f1.5 on steroids. Similar knurling on the focus and it "sat" well in the hand when on the camera. There were two versions of the hood. One was a smallish, thread mount one, slightly flared (minimum intrusion into the finder of the M2 and ZM) and the other one was a larger diameter one with a clamp-on screw.
Image quality was very good. For obvious reasons I shot most everything at f1.1 or there-abouts. The corner fall off is less than on the Noctilux f1.0- looks to be around 1,0-1.5 stops. Less of peering through a tunnel as the Noctilux tended to create. Sharpness at f1.1 is very good - I did not do "resolution" tests - but looking at the negatives - I would have no problem blowing them up to 11x14 or 16x20 without having the lens being the limiting factor. I did shoot most of the pictures with Acros 100 and developed them in Beutler. This is a combination that takes "no prisoners" in terms of sharpness and contrast.
The price seems to be set at around $1100 - but that might depend on exchange rate too.
I will post some shots from it later today.
What I liked is the fact that a/ a bit more compact than the Noctilux and b/ apart from being very good at f1.1 - the quality when stopped down held up and it is nice and sharp throughout the whole f-stop range. This means to me that it could do duty as a "standard" 50mm without loosing image quality in bright light and on the "dark" side.
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Well, first... I am gobsmacked at the price! Cosina could have just easily sold this lens for double and sold almost many since price of the Noct's, Hex's, Canon's and etc are just coming off record highs. I have been saving and expecting to spend up to $4000USD for a Noctilux. At $1100USD, the CV 50/1.1 is a bargain. So hats off to Mr Mr Kobayashi for pricing this lens honestly and fairly.

Tom,

Thanks for the PM and for posting the photos from the Nokton 50/1.1.

I am headed to Mainline this morning...
 
Well .. 7.30 am here and I have just read the stunning news! It's made my day ... not because I intend getting one immediately but because Leica no longer has this new fast glass market to itself.

This is the most significan't thing that has happened in my photographic world since I've been a member of this forum (including the M8) and I can imagine some sweaty palms and furrowed brows in Solms!

Kobayashi is a hero to us all! 🙂
 
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