squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
Yeah. Maybe a Quad-Elmar, 28-35-50-90 ?? I'll even settle for f4. I wouldn't ever have to change lenses on familiy vacations.![]()
If only there was a type of camera with a lens that encompassed all those focal lengths--and everything in between. You could "zoom" from one to another!
A guy can dream...
luketrash
Trying to find my range
I want a 90 without the rainbow stripes on the barrel tip.
Maybe a collapsible one to match the Heliar Classic.
Maybe a collapsible one to match the Heliar Classic.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Is there a "fantasy limit" now?![]()
Dear Richard,
I am afraid so. The Fantasy Licensing Office shows no record of your paying your Fantasy Tax, so you can expect a visit from the Fantasy Police who will distrain 42 of your avatars.
Cheers,
R.
bean_counter
Well-known
If only there was a type of camera with a lens that encompassed all those focal lengths--and everything in between. You could "zoom" from one to another!
A guy can dream...
A zoom rangefinder w/ paralax corrected zoom variable framelines?
Please refer to the "fantasy" posts above
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Dear Roger,
You think that my avatars are fantastic?
Thank you.
Dear Richard,
Indeed -- and that was intended as a compliment.
Cheers,
R.
Tom A
RFF Sponsor
Somebody has to say it: the ZM 28 is actually quite compact, and measures roughly 10mm shorter from the flange than the CV 28/2. (Tom A's comp photo doesn't show the ZM 28).
If you go to my Flickr set for the 28f2.0 Ultron - there is a shot with the 28f2.8 Biogon, the Ultron 28f2.0, the Elmarit 28f2.8 III and the 28f1.9. The Biogon is approx. 7 mm shorter than the Ultron f2. At the time when i took the first shot, my 28f2.8 biogon was on loan to a friend. Nice field curvature in the shot too as it was done with Tuulikki's Ricoh GRD.
The Ultron 28f2 is actually quite small compared to the Elmarit and the Ultron f1/9 - but more than that, it is very comfortable to hold and the small hood blocks very little of the finder on a R4M. The 28f3.5 is smaller, but if you need the speed......
David Murphy
Veteran
I still think the biggest gap in the rangefinder lens world right now is an affordable 50/1.2 or 50/1.1. We have of course the Canon 50/1.2 LTM, long on the used market and now accelerating in price, with fewer, and fewer good examples left. Other than that the closest lenses that meet the speed need are only a handful of ultra rare 50/1.1's (Zunow and Nikon?) and of course the extraordinary, but extremely expensive Noctiluxes (also accelerating in price). A 50/1.2 in LTM or M mount priced at less than $1000 would be wonderful and would sell well. If a version in say Nikon SLR mount was simultaneously produced, that would be even better, and might help defray the production costs. Note that F mount manual focus lenses (even non-AI) can be used on the very popular recent D40, D60 Nikon digital SLR's and many users of these cameras are seeking out classic and fast Nikon F mount lenses.
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noimmunity
scratch my niche
If you go to my Flickr set for the 28f2.0 Ultron - there is a shot with the 28f2.8 Biogon, the Ultron 28f2.0, the Elmarit 28f2.8 III and the 28f1.9. The Biogon is approx. 7 mm shorter than the Ultron f2. At the time when i took the first shot, my 28f2.8 biogon was on loan to a friend. Nice field curvature in the shot too as it was done with Tuulikki's Ricoh GRD.
The Ultron 28f2 is actually quite small compared to the Elmarit and the Ultron f1/9 - but more than that, it is very comfortable to hold and the small hood blocks very little of the finder on a R4M. The 28f3.5 is smaller, but if you need the speed......
It's good to see that the 28 Biogon has made it into the second comparison photo. What great choices in a 28!
Captain
Well-known
I realize this is a fantasy thread, but isn't it going a bit far to ask for a lens that is not only cheaper than the Tri-Elmar, but a stop faster?
Presumably you want the same distortion levels as a 21/4.5 Biogon, as well...
Cheers,
R.
I dont see anywhere in parsec1's post saying he wanted it cheap? He merely states he would like a lens of that length and speed and hope that it may at least be smaller than an SLR equivalent. I know you're on a bit of crusade this week to defend Leica's prices but you could at least wait till someone actually says something before the snide remarks. The distortion comment was a bit over the top considering dont you think?
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Roger Hicks
Veteran
I dont see anywhere in parsec1's post saying he wanted it cheap? He merely states he would like a lens of that length and speed and hope that it may at least be smaller than an SLR equivalent. I know you're on a bit of crusade this week to defend Leica's prices but you could at least wait till someone actually says something before the snide remarks. The distortion comment was a bit over the top considering dont you think?
Dear Captain,
Get real.
Why does he want it from CV if he does not want it cheap? At least, cheaper than Leica?
And no, I don't think the distortion comment is over the top. We are in the realms of pure fantasy here: the pocket-sized 10-1000mm f/1.0 zoom.
Cheers,
R.
photovdz
Well-known
I want a topogon copy... cheap...
itf
itchy trigger finger
I figure they're coming out with a new compact 28 to replace the skopar 28/3.5. This is what I'm anticipating, I'm waiting to see what its like and if I go for that or get the discontinued 28/3.5 skopar.
Marsopa
Well-known
Will we see a chrome Nokton 35mm f1.4? I hope so
Aziz
Established
My guess would be at least a faster 50mm M mount lens. Maybe a 50mm f/1.5 Nokton replacement?
KoNickon
Nick Merritt
OK, so I've read all through this thread and not one actual nugget of fact! God knows I've read (and contributed to) any number of "what should Cosina make next?" threads.
summilux
Well-known
the cosina site is down now, so should expect something new for this year's photokina.
Svitantti
Well-known
Whats wrong with the 50/1.5 Nokton?
KoNickon
Nick Merritt
Nothing! It's a fine lens. I don't understand why faster is needed -- Cosina can leave the Noctilux field to Leica.
Svitantti
Well-known
I just got mine, but it feels and looks fine - also everything I have heard of it is good. I had a Summilux 50/1.4 for a short time and it did not feel even close this smooth. I also have a 35/1.7 Ultron and I am very happy with it.
The prices are nice for these too! At least from my perspective (young student) I don't see the point in paying double or more the price for a Leitz.
I don't think the difference between 1.4 and 1.5 is too big either
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A Fast 25mm would be nice I think. I'm sure a "noct" would sell good too though - at least if the price is nice. Still I don't think that is really needed too badly.
The prices are nice for these too! At least from my perspective (young student) I don't see the point in paying double or more the price for a Leitz.
I don't think the difference between 1.4 and 1.5 is too big either
A Fast 25mm would be nice I think. I'm sure a "noct" would sell good too though - at least if the price is nice. Still I don't think that is really needed too badly.
Donovan
Member
Whats wrong with the 50/1.5 Nokton?
Erwin Put's website has some great reviews of the CV lenses. The 50/1.5 gets a somewhat mixed review. If I can simplify, the 1.5 Nokton doesn't really give superior results wider than f2.8. At f4 it really begins to shine. This is in contrast to the Heliar f2 and Skopar f2.5 which produce at peak performance from the widest openings on down. He says the introduction of more light in the 1.5 (which is based on the much used design of f1.4's) effects the performance. I actually don't own a Nokton 1.5 and I'm just summarizing so don't shoot the messenger.
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