kully
Happy Snapper
Hallo,
I had oppurtunity to borrow a ZM50/1.5 for a few days this week and before sending it back I took some snaps to let the bloke know whether it was optimised for f/2.8 or f/1.5. I'd previously taken shots and made prints and couldn't say - just goes to show that if it wasn't for this artificial pixel-peeping I would not have been able to say.
Anyway, all this writing is because I have uploaded full-size pics from the ZM, the Canon 50/1.5 and the 50mm f/1.5 Nokton to my webspace - feel free to download at http://superkully.com/misc/CnCVZM50_15s.zip
All are focussed on the right curves of the '8' in '2008'. Shots at f/1.5, f/2, f/2.8, f/4 & f/5.6. You may notice a squiggle on the right-hand side of the shots - I accidently left a letter with my address on it
And here are some shots of the lenses themselves. I was suprised to see how big the C-Sonnar was compared to the Canon and the Nokton, I certainly wouldn't say the ZM is significantly smaller than the Nokton and, indeed, with the hood it is longer.
I had oppurtunity to borrow a ZM50/1.5 for a few days this week and before sending it back I took some snaps to let the bloke know whether it was optimised for f/2.8 or f/1.5. I'd previously taken shots and made prints and couldn't say - just goes to show that if it wasn't for this artificial pixel-peeping I would not have been able to say.
Anyway, all this writing is because I have uploaded full-size pics from the ZM, the Canon 50/1.5 and the 50mm f/1.5 Nokton to my webspace - feel free to download at http://superkully.com/misc/CnCVZM50_15s.zip
All are focussed on the right curves of the '8' in '2008'. Shots at f/1.5, f/2, f/2.8, f/4 & f/5.6. You may notice a squiggle on the right-hand side of the shots - I accidently left a letter with my address on it
And here are some shots of the lenses themselves. I was suprised to see how big the C-Sonnar was compared to the Canon and the Nokton, I certainly wouldn't say the ZM is significantly smaller than the Nokton and, indeed, with the hood it is longer.
panzerneo
Member
The Photographer
The Photographer
It's the dream stuff for any RF photographer I think!
I think I might offer it as a gift.... ...to myself
If only I wasn't saving for the e-p1...
The Photographer
Thanks for your post Kully. I couldn't help but notice the book in the background. I discovered it yesterday in a library here in Seattle. Certainly one of the best reportage photography books I have seen in a long long time.Hallo,
I had oppurtunity to borrow a ZM50/1.5 for a few days this week and before sending it back I took some snaps to let the bloke know whether it was optimised for f/2.8 or f/1.5. I'd previously taken shots and made prints and couldn't say - just goes to show that if it wasn't for this artificial pixel-peeping I would not have been able to say.
Anyway, all this writing is because I have uploaded full-size pics from the ZM, the Canon 50/1.5 and the 50mm f/1.5 Nokton to my webspace - feel free to download at http://superkully.com/misc/CnCVZM50_15s.zip
All are focussed on the right curves of the '8' in '2008'. Shots at f/1.5, f/2, f/2.8, f/4 & f/5.6. You may notice a squiggle on the right-hand side of the shots - I accidently left a letter with my address on it
And here are some shots of the lenses themselves. I was suprised to see how big the C-Sonnar was compared to the Canon and the Nokton, I certainly wouldn't say the ZM is significantly smaller than the Nokton and, indeed, with the hood it is longer.
It's the dream stuff for any RF photographer I think!
I think I might offer it as a gift.... ...to myself
If only I wasn't saving for the e-p1...
kully
Happy Snapper
It is a lovely book, I'm "pushing" it to as many people as possible
ItsReallyDarren
That's really me
Great comparison. I've always been curious about the performance of these exact three lenses. I have the CV50/1.5 and thought about picking up a faster sonnar then my Jupiter 8.
They all look great from wide open to stopped down. This might end up convincing me to save my pennies just a little longer.
They all look great from wide open to stopped down. This might end up convincing me to save my pennies just a little longer.
payasam
a.k.a. Mukul Dube
For the sake of completeness, you might have included the Jupiter 3.
telenous
Well-known
Is the Nokton a Sonnar derivative? Just curious.
kully
Happy Snapper
Alkis - no, the Nokton is not a Sonnar design.
Darren - the Nokton is lovely.
Mukul - Only these lenses were available, I doubt I'll get this many 50s toghether in one place again.
I'd be happy with any of the lenses, indeed I needed to go to these lengths to determine whether the 50/1.5 was optimised for f/2.8 or f/1.5 - I printed some f/1.5 shots at 8x10s and they looked fine without correcting for focus-shift.
Darren - the Nokton is lovely.
Mukul - Only these lenses were available, I doubt I'll get this many 50s toghether in one place again.
I'd be happy with any of the lenses, indeed I needed to go to these lengths to determine whether the 50/1.5 was optimised for f/2.8 or f/1.5 - I printed some f/1.5 shots at 8x10s and they looked fine without correcting for focus-shift.
ItsReallyDarren
That's really me
A sonnar it is not. The exact formula I don't know, a gauss design?
ItsReallyDarren
That's really me
I heard a lot of complaints about the oof and bokeh of the Nokton. After shooting with it for some time I really don't know what people were talking about. Given I haven't shot a lot of color film though it, but I've found the lens has very nice characteristics.
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kross
sonnarism
looking at the test shots, the c sonnar you tested front focuses at f1.5.... so it's a f2.8 optimized.
hans voralberg
Veteran
I actually like the front focus shift! Looks nice and more extraordinary.
Krosya
Konicaze
I dont think its the Nokton 50/1.5 that is known for poor bokeh, but rather 35/1.4 and 40/1.4. Also, new 50/1.1 is not really clear yet. The only thing about NOkton 50/1.5 that I dont like is that it's closest focus is well....not close enough for me - wish it was 0.7m.
kully
Happy Snapper
Indeed - it is optimised for f/2.8 but I had contrive this test to know.