D-76 Powder Availability?

[DennisM]

Noted on the B&H site today that both one liter and gallon sizes of D-76 have been discontinued. A "Kodak Professional D-76 Developer 2019 version" (one gallon size) is "coming soon." Looks like I may have to switch to ID-11 or DD-X. A gallon of developer is too much for me. A liter processes 8 rolls of 35mm B&W.

 

[mpaniagua]

Noted on the B&H site today that both one liter and gallon sizes of D-76 have been discontinued. A "Kodak Professional D-76 Developer 2019 version" (one gallon size) is "coming soon." Looks like I may have to switch to ID-11 or DD-X. A gallon of developer is too much for me. A liter processes 8 rolls of 35mm B&W.

Normally get the 1 liter version locally. Will take a look at local store today and some just in case 🙂


Thanks for letting us know.

Marcerlo

 

[Larry Cloetta]

Wot!

Thanks, just ordered some of the current version as I am happy with that. New version could be better, or could be the photochemical version of New Coke, created to satisfy regulatory constraints or component costs instead of quality. It happens. No way to know at this point. Hoping the new one is “better”, but covering my bases just in case.

Again, thanks for the heads up.

 

[Calzone]

Wot!

Thanks, just ordered some of the current version as I am happy with that. New version could be better, or could be the photochemical version of New Coke, created to satisfy regulatory constraints or component costs instead of quality. It happens. No way to know at this point. Hoping the new one is “better”, but covering my bases just in case.

Again, thanks for the heads up.

Larry,

Consider that powdered developers have an indefinite shelf life. Might be a good time to stockpile.

Cal

 

[Larry Cloetta]

Larry,

Consider that powdered developers have an indefinite shelf life. Might be a good time to stockpile.

Cal

Yes, Cal, done. I wish I had an indefinite shelf life.

 

[Calzone]

Yes, Cal, done. I wish I had an indefinite shelf life.

Larry,

My dad was a poor, illiterate, illegal immigrant who had a brutal life. He lived to 94.

I have pretty good odds of living past 100 with all my education. At 61 3/4 I'm only 153 pounds at 5'9" and my resting pulse sometimes drops below 50 BPM.

Looking forward to retirement. I feel like I'm at that point in high school where I wonder what I'll be doing for the next 4 decades or so. Some careful decisions have to be made that impact the rest of my life.

I have been taking care of myself, eating right, not drinking, and exercising to maintain a high quality of life. Hope I have enough money to keep it going. Right now it looks all good.

Cal

 

[Sarcophilus Harrisii]

Noted on the B&H site today that both one liter and gallon sizes of D-76 have been discontinued. A "Kodak Professional D-76 Developer 2019 version" (one gallon size) is "coming soon." Looks like I may have to switch to ID-11 or DD-X. A gallon of developer is too much for me. A liter processes 8 rolls of 35mm B&W.

Unless you're pushing, or developing v high speed film, a litre of D-76 will process a darned sight more than 8 x 135. When appropriate I'll use 1 + 3 or 1 + 1 (ID-11, but the two are nearly identical). At 1 + 3 that's over 50 x 135 in Paterson tank, (for the five litre I normally mix) let alone alternatives that use less fluid.

 

[mpaniagua]

Unless you're pushing, or developing v high speed film, a litre of D-76 will process a darned sight more than 8 x 135. When appropriate I'll use 1 + 3 or 1 + 1 (ID-11, but the two are nearly identical). At 1 + 3 that's over 50 x 135 in Paterson tank, (for the five litre I normally mix) let alone alternatives that use less fluid.

umm my single reel stainless steel tank is 250ml, so on 1+1 it will result on 8 rolls per liter.

 

[narsuitus]

I mix mine from raw ingredients.

750ml distilled water 125 degrees F or 52 degrees C
2 grams Metol or Elon
100 grams Sodium Sulfite (anhydrous)
5 grams Hydroquinone
2 grams Borax (granular)
Add cold distilled water to make 1,000ml or 1-liter

 

[sepiareverb]

And ID-11 is identical. Kodak is cheapening the manufacturing process throughout the line it seems.

 

[DennisM]

Rolls per liter of D-76 powder Developer

Rolls per liter of D-76 powder Developer

A one liter package of powdered D-76 yields one liter of stock solution. At 1:1 dilution, two reels of 35 mm film in a 16 oz SS tank requires 8 oz of stock solution and 8 oz of water. Ergo, 24 oz of stock solution remain after processing two rolls. These 24 oz will process 6 more rolls of film for a total of 8 rolls per liter of stock solution (1:1 dilution). Different dilution rates will result in fewer or greater number of rolls per liter of stock solution. I didn't get an engineering degree for nothing. I pour my stock solution into two brown glass bottles (approx. 16 oz/bottle). After pouring out 8 oz from one 16 oz bottle, I pour the remaining 8 oz into an 8 oz brown glass bottle to minimize air volume.

 

[Sarcophilus Harrisii]

Paterson reel set to 135 needs 290ml to immerse (say 300).
At 1 + 3 300/4 = 75ml of stock. 1000ml/75 = 13 rolls or as I said previously, a darned sight more than 8. I don't do ounces sorry, but neither does most of the world.

 

[Ko.Fe.]

So, nobody trust to “coming soon”?
All of these stockpiling movement reminds me USSR. 🙂

 

[mpaniagua]

Paterson reel set to 135 needs 290ml to immerse (say 300).
At 1 + 3 300/4 = 75ml of stock. 1000ml/75 = 13 rolls or as I said previously, a darned sight more than 8. I don't do ounces sorry, but neither does most of the world.

Like Dennis said, different dilutions will wield different amounts. I, like Dennis use 1+1 dilution, since I'm most comfortable/happy with results I get at that dilution, as well as the developing time I spend on each roll.

Marcelo

 

[mpaniagua]

On the other hand, someone may use stock, which is 4 rolls per liter 🙂

 

[Freakscene]

Using less than 120mL of D76 stock per roll is a quite reliable way to get uneven development and streaking, particularly in high-key scenes.

The spectral sensitivity and tonal curve of FP4+ is very different to Plus-X. It is not a replacement, and you cannot develop it to look like Plus-X.

Like others, I have lots of Plus-X in the freezer.

D76 hasn’t been D76 for a long time. Kodak changed the formula several times. ID11 is functionally the same (if chemically a little different), Freestyle makes a copy, and you can mix it yourself from the original formula.

Marty

 

[lawrence]

The spectral sensitivity of tonal curve of FP4+ is very different to Plus-X. It is not a replacement, and you cannot develop it to look like Plus-X.

Yes, Plus-X was Plus-X and my favourite film of all time.

Like others, I have lots of Plus-X in the freezer.

But sadly not me 🙁

 

[kiemchacsu]

So, nobody trust to “coming soon”?
All of these stockpiling movement reminds me USSR. 🙂

i've been waiting for xtol "NEW" version for a month or so
still it is in "pre order" status

 

[ka7197]

Using one liter of stock solution to process just eight rolls of 120 or 135-36 film means wasting a lot of the developer's capacity.

The manufacturer's [i. e. Ilford's] recommendation is ten rolls per liter of [Ilford ID-11] stock solution (100 ml per roll). Normally, you can also get away with 12 or 13 rolls (75 - 80 ml per roll). An exception is Ilford Perceptol; here 200 ml per roll are recommended, so only five rolls per liter (or maybe six if you stretch it).


[EDIT: I just learned that Kodak recommends to process no more than four rolls per liter of D-76 stock solution! Huh!? I always thought that stuff was basically the same as Ilford ID-11, as everybody keeps saying so—but apparently it isn't.]

 

[donkee]

I mix mine from raw ingredients.

750ml distilled water 125 degrees F or 52 degrees C
2 grams Metol or Elon
100 grams Sodium Sulfite (anhydrous)
5 grams Hydroquinone
2 grams Borax (granular)
Add cold distilled water to make 1,000ml or 1-liter

I'll be starting to mix my own soon. I figure with the way Kodak has been just figure they will discontinue everything that we like the most......

I mix up parts of my B&W positive chemistry and find it enjoyable. Kinda gives me a mad scientist feel too...!