Deal heads up: $949 X-pro1+27+35 @BH

There is a second hand Xpro1 on Fujiforum for $300 right now. I see no reason not to buy it other than I have one.

My how that amazing camera has lost it's value. It's a shame really and fuji is to blame.
They should have discontinued the xpro1 when they introduced the xtrans-2 cameras. Leaving the copies on in the wild relatively unique and preserving their value.
Instead they discounted the wonderful Xpro1 dragging the value into the ditch.

So What happens when the xpro2 is released?
Will they be able to ask $15-1800. for it when they are selling remaining xpro1's for $400 ?
They have set a really lousy path. It will be difficult to adopt unless the new model is absolutely perfect. I have my doubts.
 
So What happens when the xpro2 is released?
Will they be able to ask $15-1800. for it when they are selling remaining xpro1's for $400 ?
They have set a really lousy path. It will be difficult to adopt unless the new model is absolutely perfect. I have my doubts.

It is a computer and is depreciating in a typical way. The only reason it seems worse is because the X-Pro1 has been around a long time... longer than most mirrorless digital cameras. I take that as a sign of its excellence / relevance as opposed to it being an indicator of a lousy path.

They will be able to charge $1500 as long as it surpasses, in uniqueness, whatever else is out at that time.
 
So What happens when the xpro2 is released?
Will they be able to ask $15-1800. for it when they are selling remaining xpro1's for $400 ?
They have set a really lousy path. It will be difficult to adopt unless the new model is absolutely perfect. I have my doubts.

Given what the x100t is selling for.. And xt1 my guess is that it will sell for at least 1500. Granted the new xp2 will have a better sensor and all the stuff from the xt1 except maybe the evf (could be xt10 evf due to bulk), the big item of interest for those who really want a next gen XP camera is the ovf. Imagine the things like focusing assist overlay of the x100t used w/ manual focus legacy lenses. There really isn't anyone else doing an ovf. If u are not interested in ovf, save the bucks for the next gen xe3.

Gary
 
There is a second hand Xpro1 on Fujiforum for $300 right now. I see no reason not to buy it other than I have one.

My how that amazing camera has lost it's value. It's a shame really and fuji is to blame.
They should have discontinued the xpro1 when they introduced the xtrans-2 cameras. Leaving the copies on in the wild relatively unique and preserving their value.
Instead they discounted the wonderful Xpro1 dragging the value into the ditch.

So What happens when the xpro2 is released?
Will they be able to ask $15-1800. for it when they are selling remaining xpro1's for $400 ?
They have set a really lousy path. It will be difficult to adopt unless the new model is absolutely perfect. I have my doubts.

With the current prices there are many more people that can enjoy an X-Pro1. It is much better than having a camera that keeps its resale value for no good reason. I don't understand how a cheap Xpro1 can be less wonderful.
 
With the current prices there are many more people that can enjoy an X-Pro1. It is much better than having a camera that keeps its resale value for no good reason. I don't understand how a cheap Xpro1 can be less wonderful.

Keeping up resale value is a huge part of maintaining brand image, and constant price-slashing will make your customers gun-shy. And the lack of technological progress is an issue for system cameras: why would you invest heavily in proprietary Fuji glass if its usefulness is tied to Fuji's whim and a 16Mp sensor? That's a risk that does not exist with DSLRs or Leicas. In the worst case, you can adapt DSLR and Leica lenses to anything mirrorless. Due in part to the short register and cropped format, you can't adapt Fuji X lenses to any other purpose. Don't like the processor-hogging X-Trans II files?* Tough cookies.

Dante

*My X100T files take far longer to process than my M240 or 246 files.
 
Keeping up resale value is a huge part of maintaining brand image, and constant price-slashing will make your customers gun-shy. And the lack of technological progress is an issue for system cameras: why would you invest heavily in proprietary Fuji glass if its usefulness is tied to Fuji's whim and a 16Mp sensor? That's a risk that does not exist with DSLRs or Leicas. In the worst case, you can adapt DSLR and Leica lenses to anything mirrorless. Due in part to the short register and cropped format, you can't adapt Fuji X lenses to any other purpose. Don't like the processor-hogging X-Trans II files?* Tough cookies.

Dante

*My X100T files take far longer to process than my M240 or 246 files.

I don't value my things based on their resale value. Camera companies are aware of this and they have adopted a very different pricing model where prices start high and end up very low so they can target a much larger audience. Moreover digital technology advances much faster than the analog film so they can always come with a better model that people will want to buy. Fuji is not the only one. When I decide to sell my D800 I will have lost much more money that if I did that with an X-Pro1. The same applies to Leica. Talking about depreciation as a % is irrelevant, you loose a lot of money when you resell a digital camera no matter what the initial price was. Investing in lenses has to do more with the trust that you have on a company to come with a better model than the resale price of a camera, not to mention the joy of using the camera in your hands of course.
 
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