Developing film for first time, few questions..

Darshan

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Hi all,

I went through a lot of threads on film developing/processing but I have some specific questions that I want to ask. This will be my first venture into film processing. I have a lot of unprocessed TriX 400 waiting to be developed, but those I will send to a lab as most include family pics and I don't want to experiment with them. I am planning to shoot Arista 100 (couple of rolls) in next few days.

From what I have read, Arista 400 is a.k.a TriX 400...so what is Arista 100?

From online search, I found out that I need to process TriX 400 at 65 F in D76 for 8 minutes...how do I process Arista 100?

What is the difference between D76 and D76 (1:1)?

I haven't bought any stuff yet, planning to buy from a local store today/tomorrow? I just read a while ago that one should start with D76 (easy to learn?), if you feel otherwise please let me know as I can buy something else too.

How important is stop bath and clearing agent (for wash)?

I will really appreciate if someone can briefly outline the steps etc. (don't worry about loading film onto the reel).

Thanks in advance.
 
100 is probably Plus X

You need to establish your own correct time by experience + trial and error. 6 frames or 12 inches will do. Throw away developer. Print the film so you know if you use more or less contrast. This will translate to 36 in the same tank exactly

D 76 1:1 is 4 oz developer + 4 oz water. Tri x is 9.5 min Plus X is 7 for condenser enlargers. Add 10 % for diffusion. 1:1 is one shot throw away but gives a sharper neg.
DO not reuse even if you develope 6 frames. It does not keep

D76 needs to be stored in full bottles. Most use 4 or 8 oz bottles for one time use. It spoils fast in partially full bottles with activity going up fast, then down. It is unpredictable.

I don`t use a stop bath or water stop, dev + fix. I don`t reuse fix for film. Use it up on test prints.

Do not use hardener fix. Ilford archival wash sequence works fine. 5 minutes and one liter of water. Look it up on Ilfords site. I add one extra dup of last step. for 4 washes. Hardener requires much longer wash times and clearing agent.

My steps are dev, fix in Photographers Formulary TF4 alkaline fix, 5 min Ilford wash sequence. 60 sec in Photo Flow at 1:200 Hang to dry. No squeegee or wipe down ever. Squeegees or fingers or sponges can cause problems and eventually will.
Cut down ASAP after dry and store in archival way. No Plastic sleeves that outgass.

Darkroom is equiped with 3 micron water filter and Hepa air filter. Clean is next to God for processing film.
 
From what I have read, Arista 400 is a.k.a TriX 400...so what is Arista 100?

Run a search here. From what I recall, one sticky in the film developing forum reveals all the Arista secret identities.

From online search, I found out that I need to process TriX 400 at 65 F in D76 for 8 minutes...how do I process Arista 100?

If you download the factsheet from Freestyle, or look it up at the Massive Development Chart, you'll get the information about this particular film and it's times with several developers.

What is the difference between D76 and D76 (1:1)?

When people say they used D76 at 1:1, that means 1 part of straight, undiluted developer, and one part of water. In other words, it's watered down. I think it's done by thrifty photographers. The problem is that you may have to double the time it takes in the developer. IOW, if using straight D76 it takes 7 minutes to develop a roll of, say, HP4 film, with a 1:1 solution it may take 14. There are some advantages to this in terms of results (wider dynamic range, probably, I read it a long time ago... ) but I never did it.

I haven't bought any stuff yet, planning to buy from a local store today/tomorrow? I just read a while ago that one should start with D76 (easy to learn?), if you feel otherwise please let me know as I can buy something else too.

I started with D76, just like a lot of people, because it's cheap, easy to use and available all over the place. Besides, in its original powder form it seems to have a very long shelf life. However, I soon got tired of having to mix the powder with water, taking all precautions not to poison anything, and then finding out that once mixed it takes about 2 or 3 months to die. I don't develop that much or that often, so I switched to a developer that comes in liquid form, and then I only use what I need: T-Max developer, by Kodak.

How important is stop bath and clearing agent (for wash)?

Very. The stop bath makes the developing process stop. The Hypoclearing bath saves time and water. Without it, you'd have to wash the film for about 25 minutes. If you like that, be my guest. I got so used to the HCA that I wouldn't even think about NOT using it. Besides, from what I have read here and elsewhere, it contributes to clean the film even further.

I will really appreciate if someone can briefly outline the steps etc. (don't worry about loading film onto the reel).

This is what I do. We'll skip the film in the reel stage and start with the film already in the developing tank. BTW, buy plastic reels and tanks. They're easier to spool film in. Get the metal type later.

1) I place my chemicals on the counter or work surface, in the order they'll be used: developer, stop bath, fixer, HCA (hypo-clearing agent) and Photo-flo solution.

2) Pour developer into tank, start timer. Agitate (or rather slowly turn) tank upside down and back within the first 30 seconds. Then, do the same for the first 10 seconds of every minute. I use a timer to keep track of times.

3) Discard developer. Rinse film with water, discard water, pour in stop bath. Agitate or swish for about 30 seconds, in a delicate fashion, but not as delicate as when you develop.

4) Return Stop bath to bottle (it can be reused) and rinse film with water again. Then add fixer and treat it as if you were developing the film again in terms of movements and times... You may need less time than developing (it should be the case).

5) Once done, pour fixer back in bottle (it also can be reused). Rinse film with water. You can peek in if you feel like; film is no longer photosensitive now.

6) Pour in your HCA and swish it around for about 30 seconds. Discard.

7) Rinse film again... and continue doing so for about 5 minutes. There is a way recommended by Ilford and I'm sure someone will tell you about it. Basically, fill tank with water, swirl it around, empty tank, refill... and repeat the process for 5 minutes.

8) Dump water from last bath, open tank, pour in Photo-flo solution, let film rest in it for a minute. Get your hooks or whatever things you have ready to hang film to dry. This is when I run hot water in the shower in the downstairs bathroom, so that the steam picks or catches any dust floating in the air.

9) Get your film delicately out of the reels. Here there's a number of philosophies: those who hang the film, those who use a squeegee, those who use a sponge. I use a sponge dipped in the Photo-flo solution, then squeezed, to pick up the solution and help film dry faster. Then, with clips on both ends of my film strip, I hang it to dry in that particular shower. It's usually ready to scan in an hour and a half... but then it also begins to curl. This can be corrected by storing it in a film sleeve and then putting it in between the pages of a thick book... or just with time.

I hope this helps! 🙂 And I hope others chime in with their steps and corrections.

Good luck and take care!
 
As said above... lots of people have their own methods and preferences. For instance I pre-soak film because I read it helps the developing process. Also, I constantly rinse the film between steps, because I don't want traces of other chemicals going back with reusable solutions (ilke stop bath going into the fixer bottle).

You must have noticed that Roland recommended against a squeegee (I use a damp sponge). That's another thing you can personalize.

When it comes to agitation... you better watch a video to get it right; poorly agitated film (over or under) has as a result water marks or undeveloped areas, so it's important to do it in such a way that the chemical solutions reach the film in the spool.

Don't try this with anything important. Burn a roll to find out how it turns out. My first roll was chockful of very boring shots. Only when I could do it in my sleep did I trust my skills to develop irreplaceable travel film. Practice, practice and more practice help. Don't trust your memory: write every step down (don't print them from somewhere, write them yourself, only that way you learn them by heart) just in case you have a memory blank in the middle of the process.
 
You'll get a different answer from everyone - so it's important for you to do some research. There are also lots of good instructional videos on YouTube.

I completely agree with this. For instance, as in whether or not to use a stop bath or simply a water stop. Unless you want to be always discarding your fix, as Ronald M suggested, but completely unnecessary, use a stop bath. Ilford Ilfostop (citric acid) works great and doesn't smell. Many people like a water stop, but if you do this, change your fixer more often than the manufacturer recommends. I would use Ilfords liquid Rapid Fixer as well.

D76 is a good starting point for developers. The only other thing you might consider is HC-110, or Rodinal if it is available where you live. I suggest Rodinal because it is extremely easy to use as long as you are willing to measure accurately.

Start with development times posted on the Massive Development Chart and go from there.

Developing film is very easy.
 
Dan,

Just an FYI but if you do a google search for just about any Kodak developer including D76 or XTOL one of the first URL that comes up is a PDF that includes development times/temps for films. Also same goes if you do a search for Kodak B&W films like Tri-X or Plus-X
Plus the give you time suggestions for temps of 65/68/70/72/75
I just start processing B&W film this past winter following a 20 year break and have been following the instructions in the Kodak Xtol PDF for the Stop bath to Rise steps of the process.
 
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A liquid developer is much more convenient than powder. HC110 or Rodinal have long shelf lives and can be mixed right from the bottle and are used in very high dilutions(cheap to use).
It's doubtful that you will notice a great difference in the film at first so choose one & use it for six mo. or a year then try something new. Jumping from film to film won't allow you to find a consistent method of working.
Most photo courses start with Tri-X because it's very forgiving.
 
Thanks everybody for your responses and the various links. I don't have a scanner yet but I will surely let you know in about 7-10 days how things go.
 
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