digital users...what would entice you back to film?

kanzlr said:
yes and no!

of course it matters how many good images I bring home, not how many are wasted. Thing is, the amount of keepers is the same for me, if not better with film.

but it depends a lot on what you do, of course.
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I just meant that museums, newspapers, magazines, galleries, etc don't provide stats when they show work... they simply show the work.
 
kanzlr said:
yes and no!

of course it matters how many good images I bring home, not how many are wasted. Thing is, the amount of keepers is the same for me, if not better with film.

but it depends a lot on what you do, of course.
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I have noticed that when walking around with a camera be it film or digital I pretty much shoot the same amount but usually I at least download and quickly glance at the Digitals the same day.
 
i will continue to shoot it but for me the biggest hindrance is staying on top of the workflow. i simply cannot do it, no matter how much i try.
 
emraphoto said:
i will continue to shoot it but for me the biggest hindrance is staying on top of the workflow. i simply cannot do it, no matter how much i try.
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It depends on how much you shoot. Be pickier about your shots. Then you'll have better photos and less developing time 😝.

I do think that film Makes you a slower, more patient, better photographer. This is a general statement, but in my experience, true.
 
Live view for critical focus. Aperture-priority metering. Large negatives for 3D pop.

The TLR systems are quite good for this; I especially enjoy the pop-up focus aid that lets me ensure this critical focus. Because I am attracted to poor lighting with extreme contrast, a metering system with aperture-priority is the next desired feature.

My camera of choice is presently the VERY QUIRKY Kiev-60 medium-format SLR. Love the Jena lenses and ability to use the heavy camera as a defensive weapon :cool:. Give me some Kodak Gold 100 and we're good..
 
Never stopped using film for personal use(or the occasional awesome client who asks for film) but too many customers are demanding larger numbers of images (last wedding I shot 7,000) and more customers everyday are looking for a disk within minutes of the shoot...those 2 aspects absolutely prevent me from using film professionally.
 
Holly cow, 7000 images at a single wedding! Why not just give them a video of the whole thing. Sorry I just can't grasp that there would be that many halfway interesting moments at an average wedding. I live a sheltered life but I guess you gotta give the customer what they want.

Bob
 
tmfabian said:
Never stopped using film for personal use(or the occasional awesome client who asks for film) but too many customers are demanding larger numbers of images (last wedding I shot 7,000) ....
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Damn...with a shutter life of 150,000 accuations, that would only be 21 weddings before you might have to replace your shutter... :eek:
 
Nikon Bob said:
Holly cow, 7000 images at a single wedding! Why not just give them a video of the whole thing. Sorry I just can't grasp that there would be that many halfway interesting moments at an average wedding. I live a sheltered life but I guess you gotta give the customer what they want.

Bob
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You are correct sir...and like you said, you have to give he customer what they want. It is absurd the number of images that are nearly identical to the one before and after that these customers end up picking...landing them with thousands of images that 1/3 are the same...when they could've allowed me to shoot less AND better images.
 
jsrockit said:
Damn...with a shutter life of 150,000 accuations, that would only be 21 weddings before you might have to replace your shutter... :eek:
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Ive pushed my gear pretty good. 2 m8's each with 250,000 on the shutter with (knock on wood) no issues or replacement (I get them checked out every 100k though to make sure they're still good) and my main dslr now has 400k actuations on it (the back up has a lowly 3k actuations and stays that way just in case a shutter fails.)
 
tmfabian said:
... too many customers are demanding larger numbers of images (last wedding I shot 7,000) and more customers everyday are looking for a disk within minutes of the shoot...those 2 aspects absolutely prevent me from using film professionally.
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Even in fun, social situations, I encounter those kinds of expectations. It is one of the reasons I rarely take pictures of people I know. I've overheard some young whippersnappers getting mad because they uploaded cell phone pictures they took 15 seconds earlier to facebook and the person standing next to them STILL can't see them on their phone yet! (Oh the HORROR!)

Reminds me of Louis CK on Conon O'Brien talking about generations and technology. (parts may not be safe for work)
 
If they made a magical invention where after you freshly rewind your 35mm film, you insert it to this magical machine where it develops it for you and asks you to either print it or scan it.
 
radical7 said:
True True, HCB comes to mind with the man jumping the water, he didnt even see it, the hole was big enough for his glass only.
I agree that there is no true method of photography, but I think one has to stack the cards in his own favor, to increase the chances of a good photograph.
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I'm sorry, but where does this come from? So he sees a hole in a fence and sticks his camera through on a whim and happens to get one of his most famous shots? Or senario two, he looks through the hole and thinks, 'great puddle must get a shot of this", sticks his camera through unaware that some guy's just walked in and potentially ruined his empty puddle shot.
I can not remember where I read this, but I do remember he had apparently been aware before the shot was taken that the frame would have to be cropped as he couldn't avoid having a fair amount of fence in the shot frame left, so restricted view yes, pot luck no.
 
denizg7 said:
film has been around for ages and its time they make an innovative all in one step for this
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Polaroid? They even had a camera called a "One Step".:D The problem was the photos were not good enough. A lot of cell phone images are not that good either, but no one seems to mind now.

Even digital isn't "one step". You still have to make adjustments if you want the image to be what you "saw".
 
tmfabian said:
Never stopped using film for personal use(or the occasional awesome client who asks for film) but too many customers are demanding larger numbers of images (last wedding I shot 7,000) and more customers everyday are looking for a disk within minutes of the shoot...those 2 aspects absolutely prevent me from using film professionally.
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I used to shoot weddings and the thousands of images on disk for peanuts mentality that means 'why bother' for me.
I wonder who has time to look through 7K images with slight variance? Possibly its me but I need at least 5-10 seconds per image to know if I like a shot enough...
In all probability that after a year or two that hurriedly burnt out disk will never be viewed again. They will probably print one or two for display like most couples, forget the DVD/Album–you only really need one magic shot.

I shot two weddings last year–on film I used about 8 Rolls of 120 and one 35mm B&W reportage on each, supplied them in a hand made Italian leather album.
 
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