"Scanning never bothers me.
I read books or RFF when I scan.
You want your images online, you do what you have to do."
Here you imply 1) that the only problem with scanning is time, and 2) that the only reason to scan is to put images online.
1) Huh? what, if not time, do people complain the most about? Though I made no statement that it is the sole problem.
2) Um... because that's why most people scan today ? Duh
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Where is the condescending part that you accused me with?
"If you're frustrated because you scanned 36 only to discover 2 keepers, improve your skills. Read more photo books, train your eyes and brain."
Where has anyone implied this is the case? This is simply a personal attack based on a few fundamental fallacies. First is the notion of the 'hit rate' which has already been pointed out as completely meaningless, as all that matters in the final presented image, and second, again, the idea that time is the primary concern. I can look at my negatives and see which are worth even a preliminary scan to assess. This has nothing to do with image-making, or even workflow.
No friend, it seems you took this as a personal attack.
I would be very frustrated if I shoot for years and never feel myself improving. A little encouragement to get off our lazy butt never hurts anyone. Your myopic and narrow take on my sentence does not invalidate the intention.
And hit-rate is meaningless???
Since when....?
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And I still don't see the condescending part.
"If you really hate scanning, get some slow contact print papers, developer, stop bath, and fixer, and 3 trays. Learn how to contact print in your bathroom."
Absolutely none of this applies to anything under discussion. Scanning =/= proofing/contact printing.
Who made you the thread police? who said that everyone here only read this particular thread about people complaints on scanning? If you have been here for a while you'd be able to remember other instances where some have expressed the reason they scan is that they don't want to bother making contact prints. But they also complain about scanning. All I was saying is: choose one. Don't hide behind excuses. Encouragement was my intention, not chastisement.
And I'm getting anxious to get to the part where you successfully proven that I was being condescending.
"If you are too lazy to do any of those, use digital.
I'm sorry, excuses don't get you where you want to be.
Thinking and start removing hurdles, does."
The coup de grâce in an orgy of hyperbole. The entire message of your post is based in some fantasy of the analog process as artisan effort in service of a platonic ideal of imagemaking. Thinking and removing hurdles is precisely what many people are doing when they move to digital, this has nothing to do with laziness or excuses.
No friend, the master of hyperbole is you. No one here took my comments to build a strawman like you did here.
One more time just to be perfectly clear:
I was encouraging people to do something about their excuses. I had to do the same, and over the years many good people (photographer or otherwise) knocked their encouragements into my thick head also.
Were those encouragements always tickle my ear? No, some of them are quite direct. But it made me realize that I have to put in the effort to achieve something that I'd be proud of. And again: to stop hiding behind excuses.
And on top of that, you still haven't shown me where I was being condescending. You know why? Because that was never in my intention at all.
Look, I hate to write this long just to respond to an offended soul.
I apologize to you, I must have said something in a way that touched a nerve. I am probably the least eloquent person among all. So please on that account, forgive me and let's move on.
Truce?
