Discontinued??????

"I don't have the answers, but I suspect some people in Croatia might."

Making the film where there is no environmental compliance needed would probably make a difference in cost.
 
Pickett Wilson said:
Making the film where there is no environmental compliance needed would probably make a difference in cost.
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No argument, but isn't Croatia a candidate for EU membership? You do know that the EU has much more stringent environmental policies than the US, right? Anyway, I looked a little bit:

http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/37816/story.htm

Turns out that they are working on it. Much more so than places that are not trying to get into the EU, at any rate.

Raise the price, people will still buy. If you have not figured it out yet: film is more expensive than digital. People still use it. Some of us pay $2 per shot for 4x5. Some people are paying $15/roll for kodachrome. If the only way to make money on small batches of film is to raise the price, people will pay or they won't. If enough people won't pay, it is not important enough.
 
Pickett Wilson said:
"I don't have the answers, but I suspect some people in Croatia might."

Making the film where there is no environmental compliance needed would probably make a difference in cost.
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Croatia is a EU applicant fairly close to admission and its environmental regulations don't differ from the rest of the EU...
 
The motion picture industry still uses enough B&W film. The Plus-X (ISO 80) isn't exactly the same as the Plus-X we use, and Double-X Negative 5222 (ISO 250) is still in production. Unfortunately XT Pan (ISO 40) and Four-X (ISO 500) are gone. Still, we could survive with 80 and 250 speed films. Diafine gives about 400 with 5222.

The carriage trade wedding shooters would stage a March On Rochester if Portra were to be discontinued.
 
It was a general observation, not specifically about Croatia. Just find a place to make it where there are no environment obstacles to overcome and you could make it much cheaper. The environment would be worse off, of course.
 
Al Kaplan said:
The motion picture industry still uses enough B&W film. The Plus-X (ISO 80) isn't exactly the same as the Plus-X we use, and Double-X Negative 5222 (ISO 250) is still in production. Unfortunately XT Pan (ISO 40) and Four-X (ISO 500) are gone. Still, we could survive with 80 and 250 speed films. Diafine gives about 400 with 5222.

The carriage trade wedding shooters would stage a March On Rochester if Portra were to be discontinued.
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Well, 35mm is covered.

I assume those wedding shooters you speak of are also shooting 120? (I am not familiar with the term "carriage trade").

And I can always make a glass plate for 4x5. That is not nearly as difficult as trying to make film.
 
"Carriage trade" is a term that dates back to the days when the working class walked where they were going. It meant that your customers were your "clientelle" and went about town in horse drawn carriages. I guess the term sees less use than it once did.

Of course they're shooting 120! In Hasselblads!
 
sevo said:
photography is hardly dead if you have to buy your thio or glacial from the chemistry dealer in town
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We don't all live in a major city. I'll now need to go to B&H plus some other specialized chemistry shop when stocking up on chemistry. Hopefully Ilford will grab ahold of this vacancy of shelf space- they seem interested in making products for us out of touch dinosaurs.


sevo said:
Selectol-Soft has been obsoleted by Kodak cancelling the matching paper.

That leaves Retouching Fluid and Microdol-X as the only items (maybe) actively killed by Kodak.
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I don't recall using Selectol-Soft on Selectol paper only (discontinued ten years ago at least no?), it is a pretty multipurpose developer in my darkroom. That's one I can mix up myself pretty easily. Microdol-X is something I use a lot, and sure I can mix it up myself as well. I guess I shouldn't have opened my mouth except to praise Kodak for being such a great company since they could have just shut down all the B&W lines at once. What do we give them two years? three? At least Ilford is there.
 
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The wedding shooters I know are shooting 5DII's and 1DSIII's. I guess really high end photographers pitch film as something different, though. Makes sense.
 
Servo, Microdol-X has a mercaptan that inhibits dichroic fog and makes sharper, hence the X, Kodak's own and not able to obtain for adding to D-23+ Salt. As well, assuming that nobody does large tank compensating developer replenished is flat out wrong. You have no idea how superb TMX 4x5 in Seasoned Replenished Microdol-X looks, and now you never will. Its the closest look to Panatomic-X, creamy and full bodied.
 
Sorry, I see its Sevo. The really hard part is finding the Microdol-X Replenisher, which Kodak does give an approximation replacement 'formula' which may or may not be the same, that was what was discontinued in 2003.
 
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