Discontinued??????
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Pickett Wilson
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"I don't have the answers, but I suspect some people in Croatia might."
Making the film where there is no environmental compliance needed would probably make a difference in cost.
Making the film where there is no environmental compliance needed would probably make a difference in cost.
degruyl
Just this guy, you know?
No argument, but isn't Croatia a candidate for EU membership? You do know that the EU has much more stringent environmental policies than the US, right? Anyway, I looked a little bit:
http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/37816/story.htm
Turns out that they are working on it. Much more so than places that are not trying to get into the EU, at any rate.
Raise the price, people will still buy. If you have not figured it out yet: film is more expensive than digital. People still use it. Some of us pay $2 per shot for 4x5. Some people are paying $15/roll for kodachrome. If the only way to make money on small batches of film is to raise the price, people will pay or they won't. If enough people won't pay, it is not important enough.
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
Croatia is a EU applicant fairly close to admission and its environmental regulations don't differ from the rest of the EU...
Al Kaplan
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The motion picture industry still uses enough B&W film. The Plus-X (ISO 80) isn't exactly the same as the Plus-X we use, and Double-X Negative 5222 (ISO 250) is still in production. Unfortunately XT Pan (ISO 40) and Four-X (ISO 500) are gone. Still, we could survive with 80 and 250 speed films. Diafine gives about 400 with 5222.
The carriage trade wedding shooters would stage a March On Rochester if Portra were to be discontinued.
The carriage trade wedding shooters would stage a March On Rochester if Portra were to be discontinued.
Pickett Wilson
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It was a general observation, not specifically about Croatia. Just find a place to make it where there are no environment obstacles to overcome and you could make it much cheaper. The environment would be worse off, of course.
degruyl
Just this guy, you know?
Well, 35mm is covered.
I assume those wedding shooters you speak of are also shooting 120? (I am not familiar with the term "carriage trade").
And I can always make a glass plate for 4x5. That is not nearly as difficult as trying to make film.
Al Kaplan
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"Carriage trade" is a term that dates back to the days when the working class walked where they were going. It meant that your customers were your "clientelle" and went about town in horse drawn carriages. I guess the term sees less use than it once did.
Of course they're shooting 120! In Hasselblads!
Of course they're shooting 120! In Hasselblads!
sepiareverb
genius and moron
We don't all live in a major city. I'll now need to go to B&H plus some other specialized chemistry shop when stocking up on chemistry. Hopefully Ilford will grab ahold of this vacancy of shelf space- they seem interested in making products for us out of touch dinosaurs.
I don't recall using Selectol-Soft on Selectol paper only (discontinued ten years ago at least no?), it is a pretty multipurpose developer in my darkroom. That's one I can mix up myself pretty easily. Microdol-X is something I use a lot, and sure I can mix it up myself as well. I guess I shouldn't have opened my mouth except to praise Kodak for being such a great company since they could have just shut down all the B&W lines at once. What do we give them two years? three? At least Ilford is there.
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Pickett Wilson
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The wedding shooters I know are shooting 5DII's and 1DSIII's. I guess really high end photographers pitch film as something different, though. Makes sense.
Noserider
Christiaan Phleger
Servo, Microdol-X has a mercaptan that inhibits dichroic fog and makes sharper, hence the X, Kodak's own and not able to obtain for adding to D-23+ Salt. As well, assuming that nobody does large tank compensating developer replenished is flat out wrong. You have no idea how superb TMX 4x5 in Seasoned Replenished Microdol-X looks, and now you never will. Its the closest look to Panatomic-X, creamy and full bodied.
Noserider
Christiaan Phleger
Sorry, I see its Sevo. The really hard part is finding the Microdol-X Replenisher, which Kodak does give an approximation replacement 'formula' which may or may not be the same, that was what was discontinued in 2003.
