NEW FORUM Changes -- edited as changes made
NEW "Photography General Interest" Forum under Rangefinder Forum
NEW "Modern 120 RF" under Bigger than 35 for post 1970 120 RF's
NEW "Camera Show" Forum under Miscellaneous Topics and more
FORUMS DELETED / Threads Moved
Archieved News Forum Deleted, its one thread moved to Off Topic
35mm Stereo Forum Deleted, Threads Moved to Other RF
35 Panoramic not Xpan Forum Deleted, Threads Moved to Xpan & Other Panoramics
120 Stereo Deleted, Threads Moved to Other RF
120 Panoramics Deleted, Threads Moved to Xpan & Other Panoramics
Mamiya 6 & Mamiya 7 Forums Deleted, Threads Moved to Modern 120 RF
Large Format Panoramics Deleted, Threads Moved to Xpan & Other Panoramics
Hand Made Cameras Deleted, Threads Moved to Large Format RF
MOVED FORUMS:
TLR Forum moved to Miscellaneous Topics and more
Scale Focus 35's moved to Miscellaneous Topics and more
Half Frame moved to Miscellaneous Topics and more
Repair Forums will be added after the format is decided upon
vote on separate thread for that.
HU: a completely new type of RFF forum which is taking shape behind the scenes.
Time will tell how these forums work out, and what adjustments are made.
Stephen
Original Thead Post:
I am looking at some forum changes, and I want to open up the possibilities for a week or so to discussion before things happen. Some of the new forums started about two months ago did not work out. Time to Adjust:
Possible Forum Changes:
In 35mm Rangefinders:
Make the Xpan/Fuji Forum once again the Xpan/Fuji forum, combining it with the "35 Panoramic not Xpan" Forum.
Delete 35mm Stereo forum and move posts to "Other"
Move Half Frames and Scale Focus Forums to Micl Topcs & More, once again limiting 35mm RF forum to only RF
In the "Bigger than 35" Forum:
Combine the Mamiya 6/7 forums under "Modern 120 RF" which would also include the Fuji's and the Bronica 645, among others.
Delete the 120 Stereo, 120 Panoramics, and Large Format Panormics forums, moving their posts into "other."
Rename Hand Made Cameras into "Hand Made Cameras / Pinholes" and move to Micl Topcs & More.
HU: As an experiment there will be a new type of forum. Should be interesting.
The idea is to try new things with the aim of making a better RFF. If some things don't work out over time, guess what? more change! The really weird part is that with a large group, some people are inevitably going to complain if 1) no change happens 2) change happens 3) it happens too slowly 4) it happens too quickly. oh well.
Stephen
NEW "Photography General Interest" Forum under Rangefinder Forum
NEW "Modern 120 RF" under Bigger than 35 for post 1970 120 RF's
NEW "Camera Show" Forum under Miscellaneous Topics and more
FORUMS DELETED / Threads Moved
Archieved News Forum Deleted, its one thread moved to Off Topic
35mm Stereo Forum Deleted, Threads Moved to Other RF
35 Panoramic not Xpan Forum Deleted, Threads Moved to Xpan & Other Panoramics
120 Stereo Deleted, Threads Moved to Other RF
120 Panoramics Deleted, Threads Moved to Xpan & Other Panoramics
Mamiya 6 & Mamiya 7 Forums Deleted, Threads Moved to Modern 120 RF
Large Format Panoramics Deleted, Threads Moved to Xpan & Other Panoramics
Hand Made Cameras Deleted, Threads Moved to Large Format RF
MOVED FORUMS:
TLR Forum moved to Miscellaneous Topics and more
Scale Focus 35's moved to Miscellaneous Topics and more
Half Frame moved to Miscellaneous Topics and more
Repair Forums will be added after the format is decided upon
vote on separate thread for that.
HU: a completely new type of RFF forum which is taking shape behind the scenes.
Time will tell how these forums work out, and what adjustments are made.
Stephen
Original Thead Post:
I am looking at some forum changes, and I want to open up the possibilities for a week or so to discussion before things happen. Some of the new forums started about two months ago did not work out. Time to Adjust:
Possible Forum Changes:
In 35mm Rangefinders:
Make the Xpan/Fuji Forum once again the Xpan/Fuji forum, combining it with the "35 Panoramic not Xpan" Forum.
Delete 35mm Stereo forum and move posts to "Other"
Move Half Frames and Scale Focus Forums to Micl Topcs & More, once again limiting 35mm RF forum to only RF
In the "Bigger than 35" Forum:
Combine the Mamiya 6/7 forums under "Modern 120 RF" which would also include the Fuji's and the Bronica 645, among others.
Delete the 120 Stereo, 120 Panoramics, and Large Format Panormics forums, moving their posts into "other."
Rename Hand Made Cameras into "Hand Made Cameras / Pinholes" and move to Micl Topcs & More.
HU: As an experiment there will be a new type of forum. Should be interesting.
The idea is to try new things with the aim of making a better RFF. If some things don't work out over time, guess what? more change! The really weird part is that with a large group, some people are inevitably going to complain if 1) no change happens 2) change happens 3) it happens too slowly 4) it happens too quickly. oh well.
Stephen
JohnM
Well-known
I would definitely contract some of the forums. There's 'forum bloat' at play on that left side menu.
My opinion - fewer is better.
As such, I would....
Combine the 120 RF, Mamiya 6, Mamiya 7, 120 RF Folders and 120 Stereo forums into one single forum.
Combine XPan and Panoramic.
Create a Classic/Fixed Lens forum and let that cover the scale focus, Yashica, Olympus, Argus, Kodak Retina, Half Frame and Fixed Lens RF forums that currently exist.
Combine the Leica Screw Mount and Screw Mount Copies Forum. Neither forum does as much traffic as they should. The Canon forum can be folded in here as well. It's all the same crowd using the same cameras, lenses, etc. Cross talk would be good there.
Leica M8 and Epson R-D1 forums can become a Digital Rangefinder forum. (Or not - I have a general sense that people would not like that idea.)
Zeiss Ikon, Bessa, Contax, Nikon and Russian Rangefinder forums are good the way they are.
Selfish wish - create TLR forum or at least give it a thumbs up as a topic for the 120 RF forum.
My opinion - fewer is better.
As such, I would....
Combine the 120 RF, Mamiya 6, Mamiya 7, 120 RF Folders and 120 Stereo forums into one single forum.
Combine XPan and Panoramic.
Create a Classic/Fixed Lens forum and let that cover the scale focus, Yashica, Olympus, Argus, Kodak Retina, Half Frame and Fixed Lens RF forums that currently exist.
Combine the Leica Screw Mount and Screw Mount Copies Forum. Neither forum does as much traffic as they should. The Canon forum can be folded in here as well. It's all the same crowd using the same cameras, lenses, etc. Cross talk would be good there.
Leica M8 and Epson R-D1 forums can become a Digital Rangefinder forum. (Or not - I have a general sense that people would not like that idea.)
Zeiss Ikon, Bessa, Contax, Nikon and Russian Rangefinder forums are good the way they are.
Selfish wish - create TLR forum or at least give it a thumbs up as a topic for the 120 RF forum.
Rico
Well-known
I enjoy all topics at RFF, and operate entirely though "Active Threads".
Bryan Lee
Expat Street Photographer
How about a "medium format open forum" and "large format open forum" ? Then you could just end some of the more obscure forums that are not being used.
Once you get up into medium format much is related to the negative size when it comes to images, your basic square shooters "6x6" verses the rest both larger and smaller. As far as large format you basicly have 4x5 and not much else, A large format lens forum would be cool but basicly I use other websites for that anyway.
One thing you might consider is a "Open Photography News Forum" where you could post anything newsworthy going on in the photography world. It might be a nice diversion.
Good luck anyway, I will be out of the office for a few days but I will look forward to whatever changes you make,,,,,,,,,, Bryan
Once you get up into medium format much is related to the negative size when it comes to images, your basic square shooters "6x6" verses the rest both larger and smaller. As far as large format you basicly have 4x5 and not much else, A large format lens forum would be cool but basicly I use other websites for that anyway.
One thing you might consider is a "Open Photography News Forum" where you could post anything newsworthy going on in the photography world. It might be a nice diversion.
Good luck anyway, I will be out of the office for a few days but I will look forward to whatever changes you make,,,,,,,,,, Bryan
Kim Coxon
Moderator
Stephen,
I know ypu are trying to contract the forums a little bit but could we have a repair forum? I know individual repairs could go into the respective camera forum but it does make sense to keep them all in one place. Many questions/answers do go across camera brands. It would also mean that the non-tinkerers could ignore them.
The various servicing articles that members have produced could then be "stuck" at the top of the forum and form a kind of reference manual.
Kim
I know ypu are trying to contract the forums a little bit but could we have a repair forum? I know individual repairs could go into the respective camera forum but it does make sense to keep them all in one place. Many questions/answers do go across camera brands. It would also mean that the non-tinkerers could ignore them.
The various servicing articles that members have produced could then be "stuck" at the top of the forum and form a kind of reference manual.
Kim
ClaremontPhoto
Jon Claremont
Yes, contract the various brand/format forums.
And, please start a 'Favorite Photographer' forum too.
And, please start a 'Favorite Photographer' forum too.
sjw617
Panoramist
Please have ALL the panoramic forums together. The Medium and Large format sections can be a subsection of Xpan/TX. The non Xpan 35mm could also be a subsection. Please do not stick them in Other or they will dissapear.
Stephen J Walker
Stephen J Walker
back alley
IMAGES
what about a 'photography' forum also?
FrankS
Registered User
Forum contraction/rationalization is a great idea.
dmr
Registered Abuser
Kim Coxon said:
I would like to see this too. I have a write-up that I did on recalibrating the GIII to use 1600 film which I have posted a few places, but it would be nice to have a permanent home for it.
Thanks
1dave
RFF Sponsoring Member.
I like the ideas put forward here, but would like to add from Stephen's earlier note elsewhere, and quoted here, that some thought should be given to inclusion of these ideas. (I really like the seperate Repairs idea!)
"Rosane Rosanadana -- it's always something
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some people will complain if there are no forum changes, others complain if the new forums are not to their liking. And yes, there will be overage between forums, and people posting in the wrong forum for their topic -- that is inevitable.
I like having choices, and I was surprised by some who don't want to have more choices in the forums.
but I do think I went overboard on the Bigger than 35 forums. Will take a look at their activity after this weekend, and consolidate a a bit.
what do you folks think of keeping the existing the Photoshop/Darkroom forum since it is so large, but adding as subforums
1) film
2) darkroom printing
3) photoshop / similar software
4) film scanning
5) digital printing
Stephen"
"Rosane Rosanadana -- it's always something
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some people will complain if there are no forum changes, others complain if the new forums are not to their liking. And yes, there will be overage between forums, and people posting in the wrong forum for their topic -- that is inevitable.
I like having choices, and I was surprised by some who don't want to have more choices in the forums.
but I do think I went overboard on the Bigger than 35 forums. Will take a look at their activity after this weekend, and consolidate a a bit.
what do you folks think of keeping the existing the Photoshop/Darkroom forum since it is so large, but adding as subforums
1) film
2) darkroom printing
3) photoshop / similar software
4) film scanning
5) digital printing
Stephen"
Kim Coxon
Moderator
If you want a permanent home for it, I can host it on my website. It would site alongside the other servicing articles.
Kim
Kim
dmr said:I would like to see this too. I have a write-up that I did on recalibrating the GIII to use 1600 film which I have posted a few places, but it would be nice to have a permanent home for it.
Thanks
Good mods...
Good mods...
I'm in favor of consolidating these forums. In breaking the number of forums down for more variety, I imagine it's made deciding 'where to post' a bit troublesome: One wants to make sure their post is read by the right people, and as readers we want to make sure we can find the right stuff.
Kudos on the tweaks.
PS: With regard to searching: Is is possible to make use of Boolean operators when doing a search? Thus far, I've used the standard interface, but I suspect it would be quicker to find posts on more obscure topics using Mr. Bool's structures.
Also, forgive me if this is redundant and I've missed a search FAQ somewhere on RFF.
- CJ
Good mods...
I'm in favor of consolidating these forums. In breaking the number of forums down for more variety, I imagine it's made deciding 'where to post' a bit troublesome: One wants to make sure their post is read by the right people, and as readers we want to make sure we can find the right stuff.
Kudos on the tweaks.
PS: With regard to searching: Is is possible to make use of Boolean operators when doing a search? Thus far, I've used the standard interface, but I suspect it would be quicker to find posts on more obscure topics using Mr. Bool's structures.
Also, forgive me if this is redundant and I've missed a search FAQ somewhere on RFF.
- CJ
clintock
Galleryless Gearhead
I like the repair forum idea too.
Could we experiment with a contax sub-forum for the kyocera types? G, T?
The contax of old and the contax G are not really all that alike except for the film size and lens names, which only makes things confusing..
Could we experiment with a contax sub-forum for the kyocera types? G, T?
The contax of old and the contax G are not really all that alike except for the film size and lens names, which only makes things confusing..
dspeltz
Portsmouth, NH USA
pans
pans
Pse combine all panoramic. The camera matters less than the format, technique and photograph.
pans
Pse combine all panoramic. The camera matters less than the format, technique and photograph.
dmr
Registered Abuser
Kim Coxon said:
Hey, that would be super, Kim.
Thanks. What format do you want it in? Would a .html file with thumbnails and full size images, loaded by clicking on the thumbnails, be ok?
mjflory
Accumulator
I'll second (third? fourth?) the repair forum idea. Kim is right, a lot of the topics cross brands, countries, decades... The handmade/pinhole forum appeals too, though I'd have a tough time making an argument for a pinhole rangefinder...
Michael
Michael
BronicaLee
Established
Repair forum is a great idea!
Jon Perry
Established
My opinion (fwiw),
First off, I admit, I'm coming from a biased point of view. I would like to have a seperate area for the Bronica RF645 medium format rangefinder camera, and I'm guessing that others will feel the same way about their chosen 'vice'.
I do realise that the search option at the top of the page can be used to 'pull out' topics appropritate to the article you are interested in. However, these forums have a very fast turn around of articles (at the moment of writting this post the time interval between first and last displayed post on the 'Active Threads From The Forums' section on the front page is only 25 minutes!) and being able to go to a particular forum to investigate an area you are interested in, or perhaps just haven't been watching for a while, is very useful. It enables me to see at a glance if anything interesting is being discussed about an area I am interested in. Otherwise I have to scan through lots of posts or hit 'search'.
One question.
Whats wrong with having seperate forums for different 'topics' (be they cameras or techniques or whatever), Is it just because people keep posting in the wrong forums?
I'm not sure which is worse, having only one or two simple forum titles that everything gets posted in and is therefore a nightmare to sort through or having too many forums.
Jon
First off, I admit, I'm coming from a biased point of view. I would like to have a seperate area for the Bronica RF645 medium format rangefinder camera, and I'm guessing that others will feel the same way about their chosen 'vice'.
I do realise that the search option at the top of the page can be used to 'pull out' topics appropritate to the article you are interested in. However, these forums have a very fast turn around of articles (at the moment of writting this post the time interval between first and last displayed post on the 'Active Threads From The Forums' section on the front page is only 25 minutes!) and being able to go to a particular forum to investigate an area you are interested in, or perhaps just haven't been watching for a while, is very useful. It enables me to see at a glance if anything interesting is being discussed about an area I am interested in. Otherwise I have to scan through lots of posts or hit 'search'.
One question.
Whats wrong with having seperate forums for different 'topics' (be they cameras or techniques or whatever), Is it just because people keep posting in the wrong forums?
I'm not sure which is worse, having only one or two simple forum titles that everything gets posted in and is therefore a nightmare to sort through or having too many forums.
Jon
tomcavanaugh
thomaspcavanaugh
you goferit, dude!
you goferit, dude!
thanks for working on this for us!
yer pal in Kal,
tc
you goferit, dude!
thanks for working on this for us!
yer pal in Kal,
tc