FrankS
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The accuracy of the story is not under discussion. No one would claim that anything tells a story accurately.
Photog9000
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For me, as a former newspaper staffer, a single image can tell a story but only for the instant of time that the image was taken. For example, a shot I made of a family in tears with a military photographer crouched in front of them would seem to indicate that the family had just seen something horrific. Does it tell the whole story? Absolutely not but for the instant in time that I took the image the viewer knows there is something outside of the frame that is causing this family pain. Another example, on a basic level, would be a shot I made of a paramedic as he lifted a stretcher with a patient on it. The patient is bloody and unconscious. The viewer knows that there is someone in need of medical attention but why? And does the patient survive? A still image only tells a part of a story to me. A single image is not the beginning or the end, just a moment in time. BUT a single image can have such impact that one will remember till their dying day....
gns
Well-known
A series of pictures can tell a story if they related to each other.
Well, they could certainly start to at least, because with a sequence or series, you have introduced the element of time.
airfrogusmc
Veteran
For me, as a former newspaper staffer, a single image can tell a story but only for the instant of time that the image was taken. For example, a shot I made of a family in tears with a military photographer crouched in front of them would seem to indicate that the family had just seen something horrific. Does it tell the whole story? Absolutely not but for the instant in time that I took the image the viewer knows there is something outside of the frame that is causing this family pain. Another example, on a basic level, would be a shot I made of a paramedic as he lifted a stretcher with a patient on it. The patient is bloody and unconscious. The viewer knows that there is someone in need of medical attention but why? And does the patient survive? A still image only tells a part of a story to me. A single image is not the beginning or the end, just a moment in time. BUT a single image can have such impact that one will remember till their dying day....
Hmmm so there are not captions and written words in articles with those photographs? If the photograph told the story words wouldn't be needed.
FrankS
Registered User
I have no qualms or hesitation dismissing anyone who attempts to deny and invalidate MY OWN experience. Simple as that. "Let Fools be Fools" probably works for both of us, right airfrog?
airfrogusmc
Veteran
Well, they could certainly start to at least, because with a sequence or series, you have introduced the element of time.
Yes absolutely. Thats why documentary photographers like Robert Frank worked in large bodies of work and there were forewords in they're books by great writers and chapters but yes the photo essays of say W.Eugene Smith and the documentary photographers like Davidson, Frank, Lyons, Evans all told stories with the projects but those were not single photographs and thats exactly why the had to use many images and words because the single photograph, on its own, is not able to tell a story.
airfrogusmc
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I have no qualms or hesitation dismissing anyone who attempts to deny and invalidate MY OWN experience. Simple as that. "Let Fools be Fools" probably works for both of us, right airfrog?
I am not dismissing your minds story telling ability or YOUR own experience. In fact just the opposite. What I am, and I'm not the only one here and I have shown that some of the greatest have shared our opinion, what I and the others are dismissing is the single photographs ability to tell stories.
FrankS
Registered User
You have not addressed my point about figurative speech and semantics being the root of this kerfuffle, but I'll leave you be now.
airfrogusmc
Veteran
You have not addressed my point about figurative speech, but I'll leave you be now.
Frank again, the photograph, if it is engaging, is inspiring the viewer to tell his/her own story. And thats a great thing. Respect the viewer enough to let him or her participate and all the great photographs do just that.
FrankS
Registered User
Frank again, the photograph, if it is engaging, is inspiring the view to tell his/her own story. And thats a great thing. Respect the viewer enough to let him or her participate and all the great photographs do just that.
Now, isn't that EXACTLY what I've been saying?:bang:
Please read my post #139 where I have restated my views.
airfrogusmc
Veteran
Now, isn't that EXACTLY what I've been saying?:bang:
Please read my post #139 where I have restated my views.
So you are now saying that single photographs are't the ones telling the story? Wow we were in agreement all this time?
Lss
Well-known
Is two the smallest number of pictures that can tell a story? Or three?A series of pictures can tell a story if they related to eachother.
airfrogusmc
Veteran
Is two the smallest number of pictures that can tell a story? Or three?
I would have to see the pieces. Michals did a lot of images making one piece were he put sometimes 6, 8 photographs along with writing. His work told stories.
gns
Well-known
So this whole discussion is based simply on a disagreement over semantics. A "picture tells a story" is figurative speech, as I've already said, and does not mean that an image speaks aloud in a voice to tell us a story, just as a book does not recite its story aloud either.
I think there are at least 2 different points being argued here. One is the definition of the word, story. To some it seems a story could be any example of a description or even any man made thing. To others (including me) it refers more specifically to describing a sequence of related events. This is simple semantics. The other point of disagreement is over what it is to tell something. Some have the view that anything they imagine as a result of viewing a photo has been told to them. Others (me), hold more to the idea that there is a difference in what is explicit in the work and what is interpretation on the part of the viewer. This may be less about semantics.
airfrogusmc
Veteran
"To some it seems a story could be any example of a description or even any man made thing."
Isn't that a noun? Or a sentence at best?
Isn't that a noun? Or a sentence at best?
FrankS
Registered User
So you are now saying that single photographs are't the ones telling the story? Wow we were in agreement all this time?LoL
If you had read and understood my previous posts, you would know this.
airfrogusmc
Veteran
If you had read and understood my previous posts, you would know this.![]()
So you have now changed your position? Cool.
Lss
Well-known
Is it necessary to create individual pictures, or can an image consisting of multiple exposures provide that element of time? What about a single long exposure? How long need such exposure be?Well, they could certainly start to at least, because with a sequence or series, you have introduced the element of time.
FrankS
Registered User
Serenity now. Serenity now!

(Happy that you have figured out what figurative language means.)
(Happy that you have figured out what figurative language means.)
airfrogusmc
Veteran
Serenity now. Serenity now!
(Happy that you have figured out what figurative language means.)
HMMM looks like we've both figured some things out...
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