do you haggle?

back alley said:
let's see...8 plus 12 = 20!

a baby! i have shoes older than you!!

i used to watch my step dad haggle, everywhere, but especially in the diamond centre in new york. my mom loved jewelry for presents and we would go there for every b'day and christmas. she would pick out what she wanted and the old man would start.
he'd ask 'how much'? the seller would answer with a price and the old man would laugh.
it was pure entertainment.

joe

It is always instructive to watch an older person haggle - the years of reading faces and body language help. My father always asked the price then showed his money. That usually got the salesperson's attention and the fun would begin. Buying late in a month/quarter or year when sales targets have to be met is always helpful 🙂
 
back alley said:
i hope this is not too personal a question and please just ignore me if you think this out of line to ask.
How DARE you!? If this were a hunnert years ago, suh, ahd challenge y'all to a duel!

No, I never haggle. Sometimes I wiggle though.
 
originally posted by Backalley

"how so?
did you live there also?
or was it just my brooklyn accent?"

Born in Brooklyn, grew up on the Island. It was such a black day in my life when the Dodgers moved to LA that I refused to acknowledge their existence when I moved to Southern Cal years later
 
Flinor said:
originally posted by Backalley

"how so?
did you live there also?
or was it just my brooklyn accent?"

Born in Brooklyn, grew up on the Island. It was such a black day in my life when the Dodgers moved to LA that I refused to acknowledge their existence when I moved to Southern Cal years later

'Dem Bums left Brooklyn? 😡

When did this happen? 😕

Man, I must have been sleepin' or sumpin' ! 😱

All kidding aside, Flinor, we share similar heritage - born in Bklyn, raised on Island (me - New Hyde Park).

I've stayed East all these years (Manhattanite now! 😀 ) but now my wife and I also have a house in Tucson.

So do you root for the Diamondbacks? Me, I totally sold out, I'm a Yankees fan now. 😀
 
I rarely haggle...camera shows are about the only place I allow myself to bargain. As a seller at a camera show I always mark items at least 30% over what I feel I want to give the impression the buyer is getting a bargain. When I get a riduculous offer I usually say.."I'd get more satisfaction by throwing this camera against the wall and watch it break to pieces than sell it to you for that price".
 
To haggle is human. It adds warmth to the transaction.

On the last camera I bought here (last week) the asking price was $175 with free shipping to the US. I offered $170 and asked for free shipping to Canada. I sent that PM, then felt bad about nickle and diming the seller right before Christmas, so I sent a new PM offering the full asking price but still asking for shipping to Canada to be included. In fairness, the original ad did say: make an offer.

Sometimes I do. sometimes I don't. If the asking price is fair then no. If the asking price seems to have wiggle room built into it, then yes.
 
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If you're serious about buying equipment get one of these:

camera-book.jpg

source: http://www.orionbluebook.com/orion/camera.asp

I bought the 2005 Orion Bluebook for Cameras on eBay for $31. Pawn shops and camera dealers use these for reference. Here are a few examples:


Contax IIIA with 50/1.5
NEW LIST 415
RETAIL USED 256
WHSLE MINT 140
WHSLE AVG 77

Leica M7 body
NEW LIST 2550
RETAIL USED 829
WHSLE MINT 487
WHSLE AVG 287

Canon P black with 50/1.8
NEW LIST 550
RETAIL USED 340
WHSLE MINT 189
WHSLE AVG 105

R.J.
 
back alley said:
let's see...8 plus 12 = 20!

a baby! i have shoes older than you!!
Same as age as me. Hmm... I wonder if trittium and I are two of the youngest on this site?
 
back alley said:
but i'm talking about here on the forum.
i just developed a curiosity about this and felt a strong urge to ask.

I haggle, but not on the forum. Unless the seller specifically mentioned "OBO."
 
I love haggling...that's one thing we upstaters share with our "southern" brethren🙂. Occasionally I get the ignorant bigot that calls me a "Jew" like it's a bad thing, though...😀

And on forums...sometimes when I have almost enough money for something, I'll ask for a break. On Ebay I'm terrible...oh wait, that's called sniping...nevermind🙂
 
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EX-LEPER:
Spare a talent for an old ex-leper.
MANDY (BRIAN'S MOM):
A talent? That's more than he earns in a month.
EX-LEPER:
Half a talent, then.
MANDY:
No, go away!
EX-LEPER:
Come on, Big Nose. Let's haggle.
BRIAN:
What?
EX-LEPER:
All right. Cut the haggling. Say you open at one shekel. I start at two thousand. We close about eighteen hundred.
BRIAN:
No.
EX-LEPER:
Seventeen-fifty?
MANDY:
Go away!
EX-LEPER:
Seventeen-forty.
MANDY:
Look. Will you leave him alone?
EX-LEPER:
All right. Two shekels. Just two. Isn't this fun, eh?
MANDY:
Look. He's not giving you any money, so piss off!
EX-LEPER:
All right, sir. My final offer: half a shekel for an old ex-leper.
BRIAN:
Did you say... 'ex-leper'?
EX-LEPER:
That's right, sir. Sixteen years behind the bell, and proud of it, sir.
BRIAN:
Well, what happened?
EX-LEPER:
I was cured, sir.
BRIAN:
Cured?
EX-LEPER:
Yes, sir, a bloody miracle, sir. God bless you.
BRIAN:
Who cured you?
EX-LEPER:
Jesus did, sir. I was hopping along, minding my own business. All of a sudden, up he comes. Cures me. One minute I'm a leper with a trade, next minute my livelihood's gone. Not so much as a by your leave. 'You're cured mate.' Bloody do-gooder.
BRIAN:
Well, why don't you go and tell him you want to be a leper again?
EX-LEPER:
Ah, yeah. I could do that, sir. Yeah. Yeah, I could do that, I suppose. What I was thinking was, I was going to ask him if he could make me a bit lame in one leg during the middle of the week. You know, something beggable, but not leprosy, which is a pain in the arse, to be blunt. Excuse my French, sir
BRIAN:
There you are.
EX-LEPER:
Thank you, sir. Thanks-- Half a denary for me bloody life story?
BRIAN:
There's no pleasing some people.
EX-LEPER:
That's just what Jesus said, sir.
 
celluloidprop said:
Are these three missing a 1?

No. If you know what numbers pawn shops and camera stores are using to buy equipment, you can always offer more than what's in the Bluebook. 😉

R.J.
 
Copake and Joe,

Youse guys is like my bruddas!!

Seriously, closer than you think, Copake. I lived in Elmont and went to Sewanhaka and then Hofstra. Since I'm probably way older than you I assume you went to one of the schools that they made when they couldn't squeeze another soul into Sewanhaka.

I've been out of New York a lot of years and am now in Sun City West. When you're in Tucson let's try to do some shooting together.
 
Flinor said:
Copake and Joe,

Youse guys is like my bruddas!!

Seriously, closer than you think, Copake. I lived in Elmont and went to Sewanhaka and then Hofstra. Since I'm probably way older than you I assume you went to one of the schools that they made when they couldn't squeeze another soul into Sewanhaka.

I've been out of New York a lot of years and am now in Sun City West. When you're in Tucson let's try to do some shooting together.

Flinor,

Hey, pretty close to right on. I grew up around the block from NHP Memorial HS which was added as part of the Sewanhaka HSD to handle overflow in north part. I didn't go there - went to Catholic HS (Holy Cross in Flushing, Queens) but had a bunch of friends who did.

Wife and I are flying out tomorrow AM for a quick trip to Tucson (only there until Thursday - boo-hoo) so won't have time to do a shoot together this trip.

We will be back out in February over Prez Day weekend holiday. Maybe then? Jorge is trying to organize a shoot in Sedona. Have you contacted him? He's in a "bad way" regarding AZ lifestyle and could use a good RF buddy.

BTW: I love going to Tucson Electric Park (spring training camp for the Diamnodbacks and White Sox) for Sidewinder games. Fun to see the AAA minor leaguers and try to guess which one will graduate to the "bigs".

Happy New Year,
George
 
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