pakeha
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what a cool guy, thanks for posting this.
i like this quote " get rid of the tension, get rid of the showing off with cameras"
i like this quote " get rid of the tension, get rid of the showing off with cameras"
do you practice?
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MiniMoke
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Yes, I do, both with the camera and with the mind and eye when I'm out walking - I usually see more interresting stuff worth a picture in the streets when I don't have a camera with me than when I'm packing one..... I must force myself not to be lazy and take it everywhere!
Photo_Smith
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I don't think I practice, not in the way that musicians or actors do, much of what I do is instinctive–I've been doing it that long.
What I do is test; new films are tested and plotted so I know their characteristics, sometimes with a new camera I'll shoot off a test roll also.
Not sure if that's practice, I certainly don't sit with cameras working out hyperfocal or other setting as my main enemy is time if I have a camera on me I'm on my way to shoot something–I rarely carry a camera.
What I do is test; new films are tested and plotted so I know their characteristics, sometimes with a new camera I'll shoot off a test roll also.
Not sure if that's practice, I certainly don't sit with cameras working out hyperfocal or other setting as my main enemy is time if I have a camera on me I'm on my way to shoot something–I rarely carry a camera.
furcafe
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Rodchenko
Olympian
Every shot I take is practice.
jsrockit
Moderator
Yeah, this is how I feel.
Mcary
Veteran
All the time...........what do people think cats are for 🙂
Lauffray
Invisible Cities
He does have a point in saying though that we don't think of practising photography the same way we think about music or sports for example, too bad I've become a bit of a weekend photographer :bang:
MiniMoke
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Never looked at it this way.... he's right, everything else we do needs practice, but photography..... we take it for granted.
The problem is, you've got to practice with your eye, you've got to have the right reflexes, both mentally (deciding how to frame, to expose) and mechanically to operate the camera correctly.
You are not born a photographer.... the modern cameras help a lot to take technically adequate pictures, but they will not be good pictures. Good pictures come from practice.... and I'm going out shooting now.
The problem is, you've got to practice with your eye, you've got to have the right reflexes, both mentally (deciding how to frame, to expose) and mechanically to operate the camera correctly.
You are not born a photographer.... the modern cameras help a lot to take technically adequate pictures, but they will not be good pictures. Good pictures come from practice.... and I'm going out shooting now.
noisycheese
Normal(ish) Human
As a 20th anniversary gift, my wife got me a mint condition Nikonos V with the 35mm f/2.5 amphibious lens. This camera lets me shoot in hurricane type weather when the need arises and keeps my non weather sealed cameras and lenses safe from water damage.
These cameras and lenses can be purchased for around $200 with a little judicious shopping and are a great addition to any kit. The 35mm f/2.5 is also highly regarded in terms of sharpness, contrast and color rendition; you are decidedly not sacrificing image quality by using this setup in hostile weather conditions.
froyd
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No need to be hard on yourselves. When a musician practices their instrument (after the basics mechanical skill are acquired) they play, and become better by playing more.
Practicing with a camera does not mean exclusively practicing focusing, visualization, quick setting of exposure parameters, etc. If you pay attention to what you are doing and spend some time analyzing your results, then every time you take a picture you practice. And if you don't live by your photography, that's a great way to learn.
gns
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For me (for the kind of photography I do) doing is practice and practice is doing. I don't set aside time for "practice" photography and time for "Real" photography. It's not like a musician or athlete who is required to show up and do their work at a given time and place. Well, maybe if you are a wedding photographer the analogy would be apt. But not for me.
I guess the days I don't get any good shots are my practice days.
I guess the days I don't get any good shots are my practice days.
jsrockit
Moderator
jenquest
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I also practice constantly. Mainly reading light without a light meter.
nikon_sam
Shooter of Film...
Finally, someone who gets me...
Yes, I practice...
My wife has often commented on that fact that I will usually have a camera with me at all times...she sometimes asks why...
I tell her that I'm more comfortable holding one that not...
I often find myself going out to the backyard with an unloaded camera and just focus & shoot...frame, focus & shoot...
It's like watching your favorite musician playing their instrument and their eyes are closed...they've played that guitar so much they don't need to see what they're doing to do it...I've asked musicians if they've slept with their guitars so that when they wake up in the morning it's right there and it's the first thing they reach for...if they love having that instrument in their hands and playing it...your fingers should know your camera so well you don't need to see what you're doing to do it...to reach in your bag and your fingers know what lens they're holding and your mind knowing if it's the right one for the shot you're seeing...to see in color or black & white, to know what's in your camera, to see the final product before you bring the camera to your eye...that only comes from practice...
Yes, I practice...
My wife has often commented on that fact that I will usually have a camera with me at all times...she sometimes asks why...
I tell her that I'm more comfortable holding one that not...
I often find myself going out to the backyard with an unloaded camera and just focus & shoot...frame, focus & shoot...
It's like watching your favorite musician playing their instrument and their eyes are closed...they've played that guitar so much they don't need to see what they're doing to do it...I've asked musicians if they've slept with their guitars so that when they wake up in the morning it's right there and it's the first thing they reach for...if they love having that instrument in their hands and playing it...your fingers should know your camera so well you don't need to see what you're doing to do it...to reach in your bag and your fingers know what lens they're holding and your mind knowing if it's the right one for the shot you're seeing...to see in color or black & white, to know what's in your camera, to see the final product before you bring the camera to your eye...that only comes from practice...
gns
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Isn't every shot practice, in the sense that you never really know how it will come out?
Each shot is an experiment or an exploration...what will happen if?
Each shot is an experiment or an exploration...what will happen if?
Photo_Smith
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I guess if you shoot things that are fast moving, slightly random like street photography you just might not know how its going to turn out.
Some photography is more prescribed, lots of times I know exactly how a shot will come out, as I pre visualised.
I guess its down to experience and knowing your subject and the modus of photographic creation.
If you have that level of experience it's less guess and more natural, kind of operation of equipment without thought–concentration on the subject.
When you get to the level of the equipment and modus being transparent, practice seems irrelevant.
Some photography is more prescribed, lots of times I know exactly how a shot will come out, as I pre visualised.
I guess its down to experience and knowing your subject and the modus of photographic creation.
If you have that level of experience it's less guess and more natural, kind of operation of equipment without thought–concentration on the subject.
When you get to the level of the equipment and modus being transparent, practice seems irrelevant.
sevres_babylone
Veteran
Thanks for posting the video link about practice.
I always like this story Mike Johnston relates about Josef Koudelka:
"Bill Jay tells a story of the great Czech photographer Josef Koudelka visiting him at his cabin out West. Bill was amazed to see Koudelka wandering around one morning taking pictures of woodpiles and trees. Questioning Koudelka about it, Bill said he thought this was about as far from Koudelka's usual subject matter as it was possible to get. Koudelka answered that he had to practice to stay in shape, or words to that effect."
http://photo.net/columns/mjohnston/column28/
I always like this story Mike Johnston relates about Josef Koudelka:
"Bill Jay tells a story of the great Czech photographer Josef Koudelka visiting him at his cabin out West. Bill was amazed to see Koudelka wandering around one morning taking pictures of woodpiles and trees. Questioning Koudelka about it, Bill said he thought this was about as far from Koudelka's usual subject matter as it was possible to get. Koudelka answered that he had to practice to stay in shape, or words to that effect."
http://photo.net/columns/mjohnston/column28/
SausalitoDog
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I read a great article last week - I tried to find it to link it but cannot - which really encouraged the idea of self assignments.
I now keep a list of ideas for self assignments on my iPhone - e.g. Shoot circles, shoot a color, shoot low, etc
When I go out with nothing in mind, I try to remember to work on one of these themes...puts a little focus to your practice 🙂
DNG
Film Friendly
Yes, me too... also in my mind as I walk....thinking about upcoming opportunities...framing, angle of view, how close, what to exclude, etc....
Many times I see an opportunity, but, I am too far away, and typically, it is gone when I do get close enough to make a good capture. even a longer lens would not help, because I want to be at different viewpoint to include faces or what is happening...
But, Yes, Practice, and Pre-Visualize a capture once you see a potential subject of interest as you look ahead.
Many times I see an opportunity, but, I am too far away, and typically, it is gone when I do get close enough to make a good capture. even a longer lens would not help, because I want to be at different viewpoint to include faces or what is happening...
But, Yes, Practice, and Pre-Visualize a capture once you see a potential subject of interest as you look ahead.
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